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Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:07 pm
by Markdude
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i770M9pM0_k&index=153&list=PLBF1E907BF2A26291[/video]
Pete Thorn did a really informative video about recording guitars via tube amps into load boxes into IRs. My favorite part is at 16:07 when he compares the tonal change between different load boxes. It shows how much of a difference there really is between resistive and reactive loads.
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:45 am
by VTM
Before watching this vid I never thought about reactive vs resistive load boxes. Thanks for posting.
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:09 am
by Tortuga
Awesome video. Amazing difference between various load boxes, for sure. Did I miss a part where he stated the actual load he used when playing back his recorded IR?
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:55 am
by Markdude
GRIMESPACE wrote:Awesome video. Amazing difference between various load boxes, for sure. Did I miss a part where he stated the actual load he used when playing back his recorded IR?
It was probably the Suhr Reactive Load, I believe that's the main one he uses and he's endorsed by Suhr.
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:07 am
by Sinical
I'm a big fan of IR's; no matter how hard I try, I simply cannot get as good of a sound with an SM57 as I do with just picking out my favorite Redwirez and doing it that way. Then again, I'm so shitty at miking that even my CabClone recordings sound better.

Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:19 am
by GuitarBilly
I am a huge fan or IRs. It makes a guitar player's life so much easier. But watching this video, it's an eye opener how much the actual load affects the tone. I have a fixed load and while I like the results I usually get, I am now wanting to get a reactive load.
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:42 am
by Ostinato Rubato
I wonder how the IRT handles it's loading

Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:33 pm
by VTM
Modest wrote:I wonder how the IRT handles it's loading

I was looking at the IRT specs and wondering that too.

Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:39 pm
by VTM
Markdude wrote:GRIMESPACE wrote:Awesome video. Amazing difference between various load boxes, for sure. Did I miss a part where he stated the actual load he used when playing back his recorded IR?
It was probably the Suhr Reactive Load, I believe that's the main one he uses and he's endorsed by Suhr.
The Suhr Reactive Load is $400 and you don't have to use a cab for that one. The Suhr box he used in the vid is also reactive but needs to have an actual cab connected to it.
At least that's how I understand it.

Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:44 pm
by Markdude
Slobber Rod wrote:Markdude wrote:GRIMESPACE wrote:Awesome video. Amazing difference between various load boxes, for sure. Did I miss a part where he stated the actual load he used when playing back his recorded IR?
It was probably the Suhr Reactive Load, I believe that's the main one he uses and he's endorsed by Suhr.
The Suhr Reactive Load is $400 and you don't have to use a cab for that one. The Suhr box he used in the vid is also reactive but needs to have an actual cab connected to it.
At least that's how I understand it.

He was using the Suhr ISO Line Out box at one point when he was showing how the IR sounds while the amp is still connected to a 'real' load (by having it connected to the cab, but grabbing the signal with the Suhr ISO Line Out). But for an actual load box, he uses the Suhr Reactive Load in a bunch of vids and he seems to favor it. The ISO Line Out is neither resistive nor reactive since it's not absorbing any of the load.
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:55 pm
by lester
He didn't demonstrate the Palmer PDI-03 reactive load, which I read somewhere resembles the impedance curve of a V30, verses the Suhr's greenback approach. I'd be curious how the Palmer stacks up as well.
*edit - someone posted this in the thread over there. Adjustable impedance curve and switchable input impedance. Looks kinda cool, bit more money though.
http://amtelectronics.com/new/amt-power-eater-120/,
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:01 pm
by VTM
Markdude wrote:Slobber Rod wrote:Markdude wrote:GRIMESPACE wrote:Awesome video. Amazing difference between various load boxes, for sure. Did I miss a part where he stated the actual load he used when playing back his recorded IR?
It was probably the Suhr Reactive Load, I believe that's the main one he uses and he's endorsed by Suhr.
The Suhr Reactive Load is $400 and you don't have to use a cab for that one. The Suhr box he used in the vid is also reactive but needs to have an actual cab connected to it.
At least that's how I understand it.

He was using the Suhr ISO Line Out box at one point when he was showing how the IR sounds while the amp is still connected to a 'real' load (by having it connected to the cab, but grabbing the signal with the Suhr ISO Line Out). But for an actual load box, he uses the Suhr Reactive Load in a bunch of vids and he seems to favor it. The ISO Line Out is neither resistive nor reactive since it's not absorbing any of the load.
Thanks for the clarification.

Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:18 pm
by '63-Strat
This suhr reactive load definitely has me interested. I kinda wish it also worked as an attenuator for live use if necessary but I realize that's not its intent.
Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:01 am
by Nateispro
'63-Strat wrote:This suhr reactive load definitely has me interested. I kinda wish it also worked as an attenuator for live use if necessary but I realize that's not its intent.
I'm really wanting one of those or the fryette powerstation and buy some good IR's cause it's too hard to mic my Science Decolonizer and be able to hear whatever backing track or recording im playing with

Re: Cool Pete Thorn vid about load boxes and IRs
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:11 pm
by Dickarms
dat torpedo yo
also had no idea how capable the power station was til i just went to their page