1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:19 pm
In my opinion there is virtually no comparison. David shined and soared once he left Van Halen for those 5 years at least 3 of them and Van Halen made some rubbish.
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Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:29 pm
They both suck balls.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:32 pm
Dave got sucked into Vais' Vaginal Vortex.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:26 pm
They both went downhill, fast. Eat 'Em and Smile and 5150 were each a major step down from 1984, and then it was straight into the abyss for both.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:33 pm
I love to bust balls. But even I can't deny this fucking rocks all to hell and back........
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UH4GGgkXHc[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UH4GGgkXHc[/video]
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:19 pm
I dunno man, I will always have a soft spot for 5150. OU812 has its moments as well.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:44 pm
Tyrone Biggums wrote:I dunno man, I will always have a soft spot for 5150. OU812 has its moments as well.
I have a soft spot for 5150 too. It and Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms were the first two albums I bought of my own volition. Age 12, 7th grade. I loved the hell out of 5150. I can still listen to it and dig it.
But in hindsight, Hagar disease was setting in already: the good-time party songs (e.g. "Good Enough") sound forced to me, and the loathsome earnest/serious Hagar songs (e.g. "Dreams," "Best of Both Worlds," about five others) are out in full force. And the keyboards are even more prominent than on 1984.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:48 pm
ovid9 wrote:They both suck balls.
I came to post this.
I got your back Paul.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:51 pm
benjamin801 wrote:Tyrone Biggums wrote:I dunno man, I will always have a soft spot for 5150. OU812 has its moments as well.
I have a soft spot for 5150 too. It and Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms were the first two albums I bought of my own volition. Age 12, 7th grade. I loved the hell out of 5150. I can still listen to it and dig it.
But in hindsight, Hagar disease was setting in already: the good-time party songs (e.g. "Good Enough") sound forced to me, and the loathsome earnest/serious Hagar songs (e.g. "Dreams," "Best of Both Worlds," about five others) are out in full force. And the keyboards are even more prominent than on 1984.
I agree. Not all of the songs have aged very well and the keyboards are a tad overdone at times.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:19 pm
I like some Van Halen and Van Hagar songs but in general, on the whole, meh. That might border on blasphemy but aside from killer guitar tone and riffs and some occasional cool rock braggadocios coming by way of Dave there really wasn't much to them as a band. Sorry dudes.
Life goes on without me...
Life goes on without me...
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:48 pm
benjamin801 wrote:They both went downhill, fast. Eat 'Em and Smile and 5150 were each a major step down from 1984, and then it was straight into the abyss for both.
This, though here and there, post 5150; Van Hagar put out a good song or three. Hagar had a great voice for the time but his lyrics have always sucked IMO.
All that being said, all 3 VanHalens are beasts on their respective instruments. I watched some rehearsal footage from the last tour and Wolfgang's (Wolfie lol wtf-ever) bass playing and tone was absolutely fucking monstrous
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:10 am
neilrocks25 wrote:ovid9 wrote:They both suck balls.
I came to post this.
I got your back Paul.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:21 am
ovid9 wrote:They both suck balls.
Yeah. Not a fan of either.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:10 am
no love for Yankee Rose? shyboy? skyscraper? jesus the guitar work on skyscraper is absolutely beautiful.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:17 am
jnurp wrote:no love for Yankee Rose? shyboy? skyscraper? jesus the guitar work on skyscraper is absolutely beautiful.
DLR is the only context I can handle Steve Vai in. Great player but the blowing hair fan is vomit inducing
Shyboy is an awesome tune 
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:40 am
jnurp wrote: the guitar work on skyscraper is absolutely beautiful.
Yeah it is kinda cool, I'll give ya that. I guess I just don't like Vai that much.
I'll give him props for Zappa and for trying to help John Lydon, but that's as far as I'll go. Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:47 pm
Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I see what you did there.
[video]http://youtu.be/lN-4lX0QyZc[/video]
I like 5150 for the most part aside from the over done keyboard cheese. Kind of makes it sound pretty dated these days. OU812 is kind of
mostly save for a few songs. I never really listened to much of DLR's solo stuff aside from Eat 'em and Smile.Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:51 pm
Independent George wrote:Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I see what you did there.
[video]http://youtu.be/lN-4lX0QyZc[/video]
I like 5150 for the most part aside from the over done keyboard cheese. Kind of makes it sound pretty dated these days. OU812 is kind of
I was waiting for one of you assholes to see what I did there...
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:10 pm
Independent George wrote:Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I see what you did there.
[video]http://youtu.be/lN-4lX0QyZc[/video]
Holy shit, that was fucking awful. I mean, I love DLR and pretty much all hair metal in general, but holy hell that was bad....
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:25 am
Mike LX-R wrote:Independent George wrote:Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I see what you did there.
[video]http://youtu.be/lN-4lX0QyZc[/video]
I like 5150 for the most part aside from the over done keyboard cheese. Kind of makes it sound pretty dated these days. OU812 is kind of
I was waiting for one of you assholes to see what I did there...
Noizemaker wrote:Holy shit, that was fucking awful. I mean, I love DLR and pretty much all hair metal in general, but holy hell that was bad....Independent George wrote:Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I read somewhere, that DLR wanted to try to become the next Elvis(or at least the same level of fame)when he left VH.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:05 pm
Noizemaker wrote:Independent George wrote:Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I see what you did there.
[video]http://youtu.be/lN-4lX0QyZc[/video]
Holy shit, that was fucking awful. I mean, I love DLR and pretty much all hair metal in general, but holy hell that was bad....
Wrong dude. That song is awesome, one of the greatest things DLR ever did, ever. Why must I be stuck in a forum of idiots who don't appreciate DLR's "Just a Gigolo" or Mark Wahlberg's fine acting?
I'm kinda serious here.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:02 pm
Mike LX-R wrote:Noizemaker wrote:Independent George wrote:Mike LX-R wrote:Life goes on without me...
I see what you did there.
[video]http://youtu.be/lN-4lX0QyZc[/video]
Holy shit, that was fucking awful. I mean, I love DLR and pretty much all hair metal in general, but holy hell that was bad....
Wrong dude. That song is awesome, one of the greatest things DLR ever did, ever. Why must I be stuck in a forum of idiots who don't appreciate DLR's "Just a Gigolo" or Mark Wahlberg's fine acting?
I'm kinda serious here.
DLR's version is alright. I prefer Louis Prima's version.
Re: 1985-1990: Van Halen vs David Lee Roth
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:04 pm
Van Hagar was pretty 
overall, but I will admit the title track and "Get Up" from 5150 have some great riffs. My real hang-ups with the Hagar years are the really bad lyrics on certain songs ("Amsterdam" anyone?) and the ballads. The Van Hagar ballads are just as cringe-worthy as any Journey song.
Love the DLR albums with Vai, Sheehan and Bissonette. Those two albums are like Van Halen on crack. Also, "Hina" and the title track from Skyscraper really foreshadow what Vai's solo music came to be. Very beautiful, exotic songwriting on those two jams.
overall, but I will admit the title track and "Get Up" from 5150 have some great riffs. My real hang-ups with the Hagar years are the really bad lyrics on certain songs ("Amsterdam" anyone?) and the ballads. The Van Hagar ballads are just as cringe-worthy as any Journey song.Love the DLR albums with Vai, Sheehan and Bissonette. Those two albums are like Van Halen on crack. Also, "Hina" and the title track from Skyscraper really foreshadow what Vai's solo music came to be. Very beautiful, exotic songwriting on those two jams.