I think I'm done with modeling

[Dave]

The guy browsing SSO is making fun of the content he found on SSO.

[Steinmetzify]

I'll look at SSO for music and gear deals, and have some friends over there I've met IRL.

That said, some of those people are fuckin nutjobs about almost everything.

Fuckin SpacedOutAce is over there....

[spawnofthesith]

I'll look at SSO for music and gear deals, and have some friends over there I've met IRL.

That said, some of those people are fuckin nutjobs about almost everything.

Fuckin SpacedOutAce is over there....

I used to post and browse frequently there but after a point I felt like my IQ was dropping to much. Swap the blues lawyers and dumbles at TGP for metalheads and axefx and you have SSO

[Steinmetzify]

I'll look at SSO for music and gear deals, and have some friends over there I've met IRL.

That said, some of those people are fuckin nutjobs about almost everything.

Fuckin SpacedOutAce is over there....

I used to post and browse frequently there but after a point I felt like my IQ was dropping to much. Swap the blues lawyers and dumbles at TGP for metalheads and axefx and you have SSO

Agreed. There are idiots everywhere though, gotta take what you can from each forum that works for you.

I'd call this the main forum I'm on, but I don't play LPs or Teles, nor do I listen to rock music, just metal and rap.

[Dave]

I'll look at SSO for music and gear deals, and have some friends over there I've met IRL.

That said, some of those people are fuckin nutjobs about almost everything.

Fuckin SpacedOutAce is over there....

WINNERTOILET

[nightflameauto]

Not trying to start a board war or whatever, but I just read on SSO that somebody said Metallic always sounded like shit UNTIL they started using the assfx. That gave me a nice chuckle.

It makes total sense. I mean, if the guy had good ears, he wouldn't be using the guitar computer. Let alone defending it. The thing about dumb people is they don't know their dumb. That's what makes them dumb.

One of my favorite stand-up routines outside of Bill Burr is Ricky Gervais. He had a whole routine about how the great thing about being dead is you won't know about it. It's just like being stupid that way. Cracked me up.

I'll look at SSO for music and gear deals, and have some friends over there I've met IRL.

That said, some of those people are fuckin nutjobs about almost everything.

Fuckin SpacedOutAce is over there....

Yeah, there's some interesting discussions over there, but there are also some true .

I just had a PM discussion over there with SpacedOutAce that lasted for a few days. Turns out most of what made him so was that he was a dumbass kid. God knows I said some truly, epic-level stupid shit when I was that age, it just wasn't on the internet for all to see.

I had no idea how young he was until that discussion. It won't change the fact that Loop's callout on him was, bar the 9ball bantination, one of the greatest internet comments of all time. Something about opening the doors life presents you instead of humping them. Gat dang.

[screamingdaisy]

I remember a conversation over there where someone wanted to switch to a real toob amp, and they were listing off all the gear they'd need to make it work (basically IRs to FOH).

For some reason the thought of using an SM57 on the cab was a foreign concept, and they seemed convinced it was difficult to make work.

Made me realize that as time goes on there's a number of guitarists where their first serious "amp" is a modeller.

[spawnofthesith]

I remember a conversation over there where someone wanted to switch to a real toob amp, and they were listing off all the gear they'd need to make it work (basically IRs to FOH).

For some reason the thought of using an SM57 on the cab was a foreign concept, and they seemed convinced it was difficult to make work.

Made me realize that as time goes on there's a number of guitarists where their first serious "amp" is a modeller.

Had a sort of similar "debate" over at TGP a bit back. Someone was insisting that throwing a 57 on a cab was really hard and annoying for sound guys and they don't have proper control unless everything is direct book better gigs if that is what you're encountering bro

[esizer]

I've tried pretty much every modeler under the sun and they can sound very good...but some of them need a PhD in audio engineering to get there.

The comment Bill makes about them not carrying "weight" is spot on and is exactly what I could never put my finger on and where they start to fall apart.
There was a Tone Talk or something similar a while back with Dave Friedman and some other sound dudes that they noted this exact phenomenon with the Kemper (at the time) being the lesser offender of the current options.

Even if you have a toppy, thin tone of an actual mic'd speaker...that top end still sounds better and more natural than a toppy, thin modeler tone.

Having said that, I think the Quad Cortex is the closest thing that I've tried to a real mic'd amp. Notes carry "heft" much more noticeably...but I still haven't tried it out in a band setting so the jury is ultimately still out.

[linthat22]

Is Amp-X still considered modeling even in the analog space? I asked them if the unit would have an "Amp X patch" where we could see what the thing sounds like without IR's and whatever and they said no. They said there's too many parameters that if they just tried making an amp sound patch that you'd hear nothing.

[GuitarBilly]

Is Amp-X still considered modeling even in the analog space? I asked them if the unit would have an "Amp X patch" where we could see what the thing sounds like without IR's and whatever and they said no. They said there's too many parameters that if they just tried making an amp sound patch that you'd hear nothing.

Yeah I think it's just an analog circuit and the "models" are different EQ filters etc. Kind of an evolution of the SansAmp technology, which if you think about it, was the actual start of the modeling concept (along with Rockman). So modeling actually started analog.