When wrong is right.

[GuitarBilly]

A friend of mine sent me a link to this tailpiece today.

Yeah it looks wrong, since I'm used to the traditional way. But it also makes me wonder why it wasn't done this way from the beginning. It makes a LOT more sense than the traditional way



I'm not buying one because I'm petty and my LPs have to look the way they "should". But still.

If anyone is interested

https://lightningguitars.com/?fbclid=Iw ... taPO_Wkt9K

[Telephant]

Is that supposed to help with the break angle? Honestly doesn't look bad to me.

[Telephant]

Ok just checked out the site, ya break angle thing makes sense. Oddly when I top wrapped my LP it actually felt less slinky to me. then again maybe I am misremembering it's been years since I tried. Was also on the LP Trad with Nashville bridge before I modded it with the Faber.

[linthat22]

Is that supposed to help with the break angle? Honestly doesn't look bad to me.

I was thinking break angle as well. Maybe that thing would provide a nice solution for those who go back and forth between standard and overwrapping?

[Devin]

That's pretty cool

[Chris Z]

I'm going to change strings on my LP today, does everyone put their tailpiece all the way down to the body and then intonate from there?

[Dave]

I'm not a huge fan. I'll just keep top wrapping but yeah it does make sense.

[Telephant]

I'm not a huge fan. I'll just keep top wrapping but yeah it does make sense.

I always forget you top wrap. What do you like about it?

[Devin]

I tried top wrapping my Burny ES but I kept knocking strings out of the saddle slots

[Telephant]

I tried top wrapping my Burny ES but I kept knocking strings out of the saddle slots

Maybe need to drop the tail piece all the way down?

[Dave]

I'm not a huge fan. I'll just keep top wrapping but yeah it does make sense.

I always forget you top wrap. What do you like about it?

I started doing it because I was breaking a ton of strings back when I was using my LPC in Gen Wasted. It seemed to lower the string tension too so I just kept doing it. I have the tail piece all the way down so there's still some downward pull from the bridge.

[GuitarBilly]

Yeah top wrapping helps with string breakage, if it's an issue. It also puts less pressure on the bridge, which is good especially if it's an old guitar, since TOM bridges can collapse over time.


In terms of string tension I don't feel any difference. Some people feel it makes the guitar slinkier but I never noticed it.
At the end of the day, you need a set tension between the bridge and nut to reach a certain pitch. So I don't see how you wrapping could change that.

[TurboPablo]

If you top wrap, check out the Joe B. trick. Cut the ball end off of your old strings and use it as a spacer for the new ones. Run the new strings through the ball end and then the stoptail. It pulls the new ball end back enough so you are wrapping only the string around instead of the wrap too.

I have no idea if it was his idea originally, but that is how I discovered it.

[Devin]

I tried top wrapping my Burny ES but I kept knocking strings out of the saddle slots

Maybe need to drop the tail piece all the way down?

I think it is all the way down; i'd have to double check tho

[GuitarBilly]

I tried top wrapping my Burny ES but I kept knocking strings out of the saddle slots

Maybe need to drop the tail piece all the way down?

I think it is all the way down; i'd have to double check tho

If it's all the way down you need to make the saddles grooves a bit deeper then raise the bridge slightly to compensate for it. Probably a job for a tech, but it's not hard/expensive.

[Telephant]

Yeah top wrapping helps with string breakage, if it's an issue.

Speaking of Do you remember some years ago you mentioned you hadn’t broken a string in years and I was mystified? Well now I have gone a few years without breaking a string. Feels good man.

[Devin]

Yeah top wrapping helps with string breakage, if it's an issue.

Speaking of Do you remember some years ago you mentioned you hadn’t broken a string in years and I was mystified? Well now I have gone a few years without breaking a string. Feels good man.

Now that you're Floydin this will likely change unless you stay on top of dem string changes

[Dave]

Idk about y’all but my regular string breakage slowed way down when I stopped getting plastered before shows

[Telephant]

Idk about y’all but my regular string breakage slowed way down when I stopped getting plastered before shows

That probably has a lot to do with it. And with ToL I’m using 11-50’s in C standard on a Les Paul. No issues. Also NYXL’s are the truth. I am a believer now. Praise be.

[Telephant]

Yeah top wrapping helps with string breakage, if it's an issue.

Speaking of Do you remember some years ago you mentioned you hadn’t broken a string in years and I was mystified? Well now I have gone a few years without breaking a string. Feels good man.

Now that you're Floydin this will likely change unless you stay on top of dem string changes

You can stay on top deez nuts, bby.

[GuitarBilly]

Yeah top wrapping helps with string breakage, if it's an issue.

Speaking of Do you remember some years ago you mentioned you hadn’t broken a string in years and I was mystified? Well now I have gone a few years without breaking a string. Feels good man.

yeah, that still holds true. It's been well over 10 years, easily. And these days, I use 09s for the most part. I even had an 08s phase last year and still nothing

[Devin]

You can stay on top deez nuts, bby.

[facefirst]

Yeah top wrapping helps with string breakage, if it's an issue.

Speaking of Do you remember some years ago you mentioned you hadn’t broken a string in years and I was mystified? Well now I have gone a few years without breaking a string. Feels good man.

yeah, that still holds true. It's been well over 10 years, easily. And these days, I use 09s for the most part. I even had an 08s phase last year and still nothing

I use 9s on the guitars for my wedding cover band. I break them about every other gig. Probably going to go back to 10s.

[linthat22]

If you top wrap, check out the Joe B. trick. Cut the ball end off of your old strings and use it as a spacer for the new ones. Run the new strings through the ball end and then the stoptail. It pulls the new ball end back enough so you are wrapping only the string around instead of the wrap too.

I have no idea if it was his idea originally, but that is how I discovered it.

For some reason, I can't picture this in my head.

[_ej_]

It would be simpler and easier to cast and drill the traditional slots.

Modern manufacturing makes that a null issue but that's my guess as to why the traditional style is how it is.