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NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:20 am
by Bardagh
I recently moved to a new house and have had to set up my music gear in the master bedroom :( until I am able to finish the basement and build out an awesome studio space. To make the best of things in the meantime, I needed a recording solution with a smaller footprint than my Mackie Onyx mixer. After some research, I was interested in the Focusrite Forte (http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/forte), and when I was able to nab a new/open box one on ebay for $300 that sealed the deal.

Turns out so far that this has been a great choice. It of course has fewer preamps/ins and less in the way of routing options than my Mackie interface, but I don't really need more in my current situation. The design of the device is great, they have made everything very easily accessible via the one turn-and-push knob. The control software is fine too, and the plug-ins it comes with (Focusrite Midnight Comp and EQ) are actually very nice.

The most important thing though is the sound quality, which is fantastic. I don't think I will be able to go back to my Mackie after this. The sound from the preamps and possibly the converters is just so much better. The preamps don't have the color of the Onyx pres (which really are nice) but they make the material you record sound far bigger, more open and accurate. They aren't quite as super clean as something like a Grace m101 but they're more in that direction. They also have TONS of gain. Plenty to drive an SM7b on vocals with ease.

The downside is on the technical end where I have encountered some glitchy weirdness. When I first installed the device I was prompted to d/l some new firmware, which I did. After the installation completed and I cycled the power on the device, I got the dreaded BSOD. :eek: But after my DAW restarted, it has never happened again. The bigger issue is that the Forte Control software takes umbrage with certain things seemingly at random. Its not too big a deal really, primarily what I have noticed is the kind of thing where if I'm in Reaper and I mix down a track and select the 'Launch File' option from the mixdown menu, Forte Control will stop working. Fortunately, this doesn't crash Reaper, and in fact the Forte still functions in that it passes sound from the DAW to the monitors/headphones, but the knob and option buttons stop working. To fix the issue you can just save your project, close out Reaper, and restart the Forte Control program. Or, you can avoid the whole issue by not launching the file from Reaper, and making sure you have Reaper minimized when you go to listen to the file in Media Player or whatever. So the software is not bulletproof like I have found Mackie's to be, but it's also not really problematic.

Overall, at the price and for the quality of sound, I cannot recommend the Forte highly enough. If its size and feature set meet your needs, definitely give it a look if you are in need of a PC DAW interface. :thu:

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:24 pm
by ZombieCat
Thanks for the review. Can you post/link some raw clips of recordings from the interface? I have been looking for a replacement for my Apogee Duet so I can finally move away completely from OS X.

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:16 pm
by DNW
I was rather excited when I saw other companies are now doing these small form interfaces like the Duet, but compatible with PCs too. I was looking at this one and the MOTU... something something. I'd probably go for the latter. From memory the MOTU has a ADAT Lightpipe connection whereas the Focusrite doesn't. But then the MOTU lacked in some areas too where the Focusrite came out on top.

But I'd be looking at getting something to replace my current set up, not just as a little make-do set up or a portable only solution. So being able to have a set up as small as just a laptop, tiny interface and some headphones... but then also being able to expand it with an 8-ch ADAT pre if needed... sounds pretty handy to me.

Of course all this shit requires money, which I don't have any of at the moment, so it's all just distant dreams for now. :cry:

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:12 am
by ZombieCat
DNW wrote:and the MOTU... something something. I'd probably go for the latter.


You might be thinking of the MOTU Track 16. I tried that for all of about 10 mins. I was getting horrible humming/noise on it. It was picking up interference from my video card. I have no idea how good it sounds because I could not get rid of the noise short of getting a new video card. Since I also game on my PC that was not really an option.

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:56 pm
by DNW
Well that's reassuring.

I won't be buying anything for a while anyway, and I'll do plenty of reading around when it's time. :idk:

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:02 am
by Bardagh
ZombieCat wrote:
DNW wrote:and the MOTU... something something. I'd probably go for the latter.


You might be thinking of the MOTU Track 16. I tried that for all of about 10 mins. I was getting horrible humming/noise on it. It was picking up interference from my video card. I have no idea how good it sounds because I could not get rid of the noise short of getting a new video card. Since I also game on my PC that was not really an option.


I wonder how a USB device could pick up humming from a video card? Just a really awful mobo design where they're sharing a host controller? Usually you would at least have some usb ports on a different controller...

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:05 am
by Bardagh
ZombieCat wrote:Thanks for the review. Can you post/link some raw clips of recordings from the interface? I have been looking for a replacement for my Apogee Duet so I can finally move away completely from OS X.


I don't really have anything like that atm as I've just been working on some songwriting. Once I get the gumption to change the strings on my acoustic I'll do something with it that will probably be a bit more demonstrative of a raw recording.

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:32 pm
by DNW
Bardagh wrote:
ZombieCat wrote:
DNW wrote:and the MOTU... something something. I'd probably go for the latter.


You might be thinking of the MOTU Track 16. I tried that for all of about 10 mins. I was getting horrible humming/noise on it. It was picking up interference from my video card. I have no idea how good it sounds because I could not get rid of the noise short of getting a new video card. Since I also game on my PC that was not really an option.


I wonder how a USB device could pick up humming from a video card? Just a really awful mobo design where they're sharing a host controller? Usually you would at least have some usb ports on a different controller...


Yeah I was thinking it sounded more like something that'd be specific to whatever he's running, but whatever... I'll do my research on the interface when the time comes. :idk:

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:05 am
by ZombieCat
Bardagh wrote:
ZombieCat wrote:
DNW wrote:and the MOTU... something something. I'd probably go for the latter.


You might be thinking of the MOTU Track 16. I tried that for all of about 10 mins. I was getting horrible humming/noise on it. It was picking up interference from my video card. I have no idea how good it sounds because I could not get rid of the noise short of getting a new video card. Since I also game on my PC that was not really an option.


I wonder how a USB device could pick up humming from a video card? Just a really awful mobo design where they're sharing a host controller? Usually you would at least have some usb ports on a different controller...


I tried it on USB (different ports) and on a separate FireWire card with the same issue. It is just one of those weird computer problems that pop up from time to time. It could have been a bum Track 16. :idk: In the end, I just returned it and consider it not an option for me.

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:56 am
by Zozobra
I love Focusrite stuff. You get a hell of a lot for the money thats for sure. I have a saffire pro 40 and access to a 2nd. As it happens I'm recording with my band over the weekend and we'll be strapping both of them together for 16 glorious inputs.

Re: NI(nterface)D - Focusrite Forte

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:28 am
by ZombieCat
I have been spending the past few days looking for a new interface and I am definitely narrowing it down to a Focusrite. Now if I could afford an Universal Audio Apollo my decision would have been made a long time ago :D

Right now I am stuck between the Scarlett 18i8 or a Forte. The Saffire Pro 40 just has way more than I need and from all apparent research has the same pres and DA/AD as the Saffire. The Forte has better specs (for the pres and noise levels) than the Scarlett but not as many inputs. While I do not need all the inputs of the Scarlett, it would be nice to have them in the future.

Decisions, decisions. ;)