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He's been playing a white Gibson V on his most recent concerts, first time he's playing them since '04:





Pretty cool. The Gibson V just looks "right" for Schenker.

The man could play a cigar box guitar and sound amazing. He really is just an amazing legend. A shame his demons held him back. The first MSG album is still a go to for me.

The Dean actually looked cool too I thought!

But even I, at times, still want to get me a Gibson V. Or make a really close copy, I recently just converted one of my Bolt on 25.5 scale V’s to 24.75. As just how Vs sit and how far the neck goes, I must say, I didn’t realize how much better the shorter scale feels when it comes to the V shape.

EndTime wrote:The Dean actually looked cool too I thought!

But even I, at times, still want to get me a Gibson V. Or make a really close copy, I recently just converted one of my Bolt on 25.5 scale V’s to 24.75. As just how Vs sit and how far the neck goes, I must say, I didn’t realize how much better the shorter scale feels when it comes to the V shape.

That's true. The V shape really feels better with the Gibson scale. Same with the SG. Explorers too.

Conversely, I had a Tele copy with a 24.75" scale that felt weird as hell.

Strats seem to work both ways though.

ibenhad wrote:The man could play a cigar box guitar and sound amazing. He really is just an amazing legend. A shame his demons held him back. The first MSG album is still a go to for me.

Yes he's in my Top 5 all time favorites. Top 3 maybe.

Because of Michael, I really want a later 80s 2205 Right before COVID took over the world, I played one in Columbus on a work trip, and it was so good, especially contrasted to how much my '83 2210 was a piece of shit.

Really sweet tone, nice melodic lines. I sort of found him backwards, as a lot of players I grew up on cited him as one of their biggest influences. And because I have no discipline, I almost wound up closer to Mike in a way vs the "shredders" I liked as a younger man. Paid off in the long run I think

GuitarBilly wrote:

EndTime wrote:The Dean actually looked cool too I thought!

But even I, at times, still want to get me a Gibson V. Or make a really close copy, I recently just converted one of my Bolt on 25.5 scale V’s to 24.75. As just how Vs sit and how far the neck goes, I must say, I didn’t realize how much better the shorter scale feels when it comes to the V shape.

That's true. The V shape really feels better with the Gibson scale. Same with the SG. Explorers too.

Conversely, I had a Tele copy with a 24.75" scale that felt weird as hell.

Strats seem to work both ways though.

Never tried a Strat with short scale Altho my HM Strat is the 25.125 scale! And I always loved how that played.

But yeah explorers and Vs really benefit from shorter scale cause that first fret isn’t so “far” out. At times it really can feel away from you. As soon as I put the shorter scale on that first fret felt more in the same position as most of my other guitars

MacaroniSalad wrote:Because of Michael, I really want a later 80s 2205 Right before COVID took over the world, I played one in Columbus on a work trip, and it was so good, especially contrasted to how much my '83 2210 was a piece of shit.

Really sweet tone, nice melodic lines. I sort of found him backwards, as a lot of players I grew up on cited him as one of their biggest influences. And because I have no discipline, I almost wound up closer to Mike in a way vs the "shredders" I liked as a younger man. Paid off in the long run I think

The 2205/2210, had a revision in '85, which solved a lot of the issues of the original, except for the channel bleed. And a final revision in '87, which solved all the issues. Try a '87-'90 2205, it is a completely different amp from the earlier version and much better.

My very first tube head was an '83 2205 I got in '88. It was a piece of shit, such a disappointment.. I took it back to the store and trade it for a Laney AOR100. That amp was really cool. Then in '94 I got a GH100L and used it until '04.

EndTime wrote:
But yeah explorers and Vs really benefit from shorter scale cause that first fret isn’t so “far” out. At times it really can feel away from you. As soon as I put the shorter scale on that first fret felt more in the same position as most of my other guitars

Yeah I had a Jackson Fusion, which is probably the most well known shorter scale strat style guitar. That guitar was awesome. Although I don't know if that counts as a "start" since the Dinky body is 7/8s of a strat.

The older Valley Arts guitar were also gibson scale.

Kramer Nightswan and the Peavey Vandenberg were also 24.75”. I think when the whole instrument is kind of designed around that scale it just works better. Even in the case of the Fusion I’m sure they made adjustments for bridge and pickup placement as well as the neck scale.

greatmutah wrote:Kramer Nightswan and the Peavey Vandenberg were also 24.75”. I think when the whole instrument is kind of designed around that scale it just works better. Even in the case of the Fusion I’m sure they made adjustments for bridge and pickup placement as well as the neck scale.

The Nightswan is 24.75??? I didn't know that

GuitarBilly wrote:

greatmutah wrote:Kramer Nightswan and the Peavey Vandenberg were also 24.75”. I think when the whole instrument is kind of designed around that scale it just works better. Even in the case of the Fusion I’m sure they made adjustments for bridge and pickup placement as well as the neck scale.

The Nightswan is 24.75??? I didn't know that

Yep, in Kramer land the Nightswan and Proaxe back in the day were both 24.75. The change to an R2 nut on the reissue from the original R1 was likely a good move too for a wider audience.

Different price range, but all the Tom Anderson Cobras are short scale, with both Tele and Strat styles.