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NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:31 pm
by Hipster Salad
Found a MKII Spider Valve head for $315 at GC, and just couldn't say no. Apparently there are PC level editing features on this that aren't on the MKI version? Gonna have to check that out this weekend.
Holy balls it gets loud in a hurry. Not sure how old the set of tubes are, but there was a considerable amount of dust covering just about everything. Master Vol and Presence knobs were wonky, but DeOxit took care of most of the scratchyness and internal level shifting - may have to just replace the pots eventually. Jammed it with my kid last night through a V30 loaded 2x12 cab and it wasn't the worst with just using the factory presets (just high gain stuff). Heard these a few times at gigs and always thought they sounded better than they should have.

Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:19 pm
by GuitarBilly
These amps actually sound good. The power section is very strong and punchy.
I think Line6 dropped the ball by calling it a "Spider" because the name is associated with their budget amps. I think more players would have adopted them if they were called something else

Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:44 pm
by Marc G
I never played one.... but the idea was solid...
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:16 pm
by Hipster Salad
GuitarBilly wrote:These amps actually sound good. The power section is very strong and punchy.
I think Line6 dropped the ball by calling it a "Spider" because the name is associated with their budget amps. I think more players would have adopted them if they were called something else

Agreed, but it's literally a Spider IV with a tube section (MkI was a Spider III), so I guess their hands were tied in the naming department.
This thing chugs. \m/
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:18 pm
by RaceU4her
id rock one of these, id buy a helixvavle too if they ever made one
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:12 pm
by Mike Oxhuge
I always was able to get great tones out of these, but never bought one because the Internet told me my ears were broken. Now I know better. Congrats!
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:08 am
by guidedbyechoes
RaceU4her wrote:id rock one of these, id buy a helixvavle too if they ever made one
Same my helix with a power amp held it's own against my vht and my triaxis. I even had a tube only guitar player friend confirm that observation.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:21 am
by trey85stang2
ive liekd everyone i have ever played. the pcb boards in the mk1 are prone to failure, so I always kind of shy away from them. You should be good wit an mk2, if you really like and plan on keeping id grab a spare pcb board to have on hand.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:03 pm
by JSutter
I've considered these amps many times. Saw a band with one (mki or ii not sure) and they sounded great. I had the spider ii head and had no problem dialing in good tones. Do you have a foot controller? Even the small fbv is incredibly useful.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:43 pm
by Hipster Salad
JSutter wrote:I've considered these amps many times. Saw a band with one (mki or ii not sure) and they sounded great. I had the spider ii head and had no problem dialing in good tones. Do you have a foot controller? Even the small fbv is incredibly useful.
I have a couple FBV foot switches that are compatible with the MkI but not sure about the Mk2 - cross compatibility with some and not with others.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:13 pm
by K-Bizzle
RaceU4her wrote:id rock one of these, id buy a helixvavle too if they ever made one
Same. I really liked my Spidervalve and my Helix through tube power amps. If they put together a similarly designed package that’d be great and I’d definitely snag one if they got it right.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:52 pm
by Tortuga
Never understood why Bogner would want his name associated with the Spider line.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:51 pm
by Hipster Salad
Tortuga wrote:Never understood why Bogner would want his name associated with the Spider line.
Must have been lucrative I guess. Also was sort of a handshake deal where he'd design the tube circuit for the SV line, and had Line 6 manufacture/mass produce the Alchemist for him - which probably gave Reinhold more brand awareness in the amp market.
Re: NAD - MOAR Line 6 stuff
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:17 pm
by GuitarBilly
Yeah I was still at Line6 when that deal was done. It was a very lucrative deal for both sides.
Line 6 sells a LOT of amps. Back when I left the company ('06) they had 80% of the small/medium amp market and almost exclusively due to the Spider line.