Captor x question

[G-Zod]

I’m thinking about getting one, just curious if anyone here has tried using the captor using both xlr channels as well as at least 2 mics, all at the same using 4 tracks for just one guitar part?

[GuitarBilly]

I use the 2 xlr outs but no mics.

There is no reason it wouldn't work though. Any phase issue can be easily corrected in the DAW.

If I am recording 4 tracks I'd use at least 2 different performances though. It sounds better to me.

[G-Zod]

I use the 2 xlr outs but no mics.

There is no reason it wouldn't work though. Any phase issue can be easily corrected in the DAW.

If I am recording 4 tracks I'd use at least 2 different performances though. It sounds better to me.

ok, that makes sense, I guess I'd have to actually play the same part the same way twice, that will be a challenge for me lol.

[GuitarBilly]

I use the 2 xlr outs but no mics.

There is no reason it wouldn't work though. Any phase issue can be easily corrected in the DAW.

If I am recording 4 tracks I'd use at least 2 different performances though. It sounds better to me.

ok, that makes sense, I guess I'd have to actually play the same part the same way twice, that will be a challenge for me lol.

Yeah I get that. But IMHO recording one performance with 2 mics, 2 IRs or even 2 completely different amp is not the same as double tracking.

The slight variations that occur when you play the same part twice is what makes a double tracked part much bigger.
It's not a "rule" though, obviously it's your music and you can do anything you want with it.
EVH was famous for not overdubbing his parts and having Ted Templeman use room mics and reverb for his stereo spread on the first albums and later he started using the Eventide micropitch for his stereo spread on the Hagar era.

You can also use some tricks in the DAW. A good one is to comp a second track. Just switch parts around to create variations. For example, verse1 becomes verse 2 on the second track and vice versa.
Or use a slight delay like 10ms or something.

That said, I really prefer to play the parts twice. It's not a big deal once you get the hang of it.

[Zozobra]

Practice that double tracking! The problem with using one performance multiple times is that the phase angle between them is essentially fixed, thus there is the possibility for weird phase cancelling/reinforcement/combing and the stereo image might be a mess if things are panned. That's not to say that doing that isn't valid as people blend multiple mics to sculpt a tone - that's basically what the Fredman mic clip does. Dimebag apparently liked to blend multiple mics through a shitty tascam mixer, so if it works it works. But if it sounds shitty and thin, that's why

[EndTime]

Yeah adding MORE mics, especially 4, off the same performance is likely going to be the reverse of what you are hoping because , as mentioned, the phase issues that pop up when micing the same source with multiple mics. It can be done of course, but unless you have a good idea of phase and how to minimize that, you’ll likely end up WItH phase issues which is essentially the cancelling out of frequencies. So if one is trying to get BIGGER sounds, you don’t want to be canceling frequencies in your tone.

2 seperate performances spread out Left and Right stereo is ALWAYS going to be the most true way to create a stereo spread.

EVH did do the trick on his late 80s and beyond where he used a micro pitch and delay. So he was changing the tuning a bit and delaying the signal to create a pseudo stereo m, but that also introduces phase issues and usually a bit of a chorusing effect.

That’s where his wet/dry/wet rig was developed. His center cab is dry. The left and right cabs are the SAME signal from the guitar, but one side is pitched slightly down and the other pitched slightly up and they each are delayed a bit differenct as well. If he didn’t do all of that and just put 3 mics on 3 dry cabs and tried to pan them all, he’d basically end up with one MONO track. Maybe a slight spread cause each mic pics up a little bit different but for all intent and purpose, it’ll just be a big MONo track. And that’s essentially what you would be doing unless you treated some of those mics/IRs with some of the same things Eddie did