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Two songs streaming here:
http://loudandproudrecords.com/releases/winery-dogs/

and a video for the 4th:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuDME1JHicY[/video]

Tasty licks on this one

One of my buds told me Portnoy already quit this project earlier this week. I hope he's lying, cause I've liked everything I've heard so far.

From what I read, he quit Adrenaline Mob. Which hopefully will in turn inspire them to quit altogether. Russell Allen has a great voice but that band stinks.

Maybe he read that and got confused. I'll hold out hope that's the correct version. Adrenaline Mob didn't do much for me at all.

As a huge Kotzen fanboy I'm so goddamned stoked for this album to drop.....I must haz it


All four songs I've heard so far have been pretty fuckin jammin

I think it sounds good overall but the songwriting is very generic and cliche.... "can you make me feel like my mojo is rising"? Seriously? It's like Mr. Big only cheesier, if that's even possible.

Also, the shred-ish parts don't go well with the rest of the song.... so yeah I'm not too impressed. It's ok but I would expect more from guys of this caliber.

GuitarBilly wrote:I think it sounds good overall but the songwriting is very generic and cliche.... "can you make me think that my mojo is rising"? Seriously? It's like Mr. Big only cheesier, if that's even possible.

Also, the shred-ish parts don't go well with the rest of the song.... so yeah I'm not too impressed. It's ok but I would expect more from guys of this caliber.

Fwiw that vid in the OP is the worst song of the 4 they've put out so far IMO

meh

I am digging the fuck out of everything I have heard so far.

I'm likin' the tunes so far.... lots 'o' talent

Great stuff and great CD!!! Richie Kotzen just spews talent!!! Going to see them in Chicago on August 8th.

Sucks Nutz.

Great players. Kotzen is a really good singer. OK song. I've already forgotten the hook.

It reminds me of a ton of those "weekend supergroups" that released albums on Magna Carta or Metal Blade in the 1990s and 2000s. A bunch of ultra-talented shredders and prog dudes who did side projects where it feels as though they got together and slapped together an album's worth of material in a week or two, recorded it and sent it out the door. Bozzio Levin Stevens. Liquid Tension Experiment. Pinnick Gales Pridgen. Probably dozens more.

It probably won't make me very popular here, but I'd rather hear a band of moderately talented people who wrote some catchy songs and honed them to greatness. It's why the first two Poison albums are more listenable to me than Native Tongue (relatively speaking) even though Kotzen is a 500x better guitarist than CC DeVille.

I disliked that pretty intensely.

This is an awesome CD especially if you are a fan of Richie's solo stuff. If you are not, you will not dig this at all!!

benjamin801 wrote:Great players. Kotzen is a really good singer. OK song. I've already forgotten the hook.

It reminds me of a ton of those "weekend supergroups" that released albums on Magna Carta or Metal Blade in the 1990s and 2000s. A bunch of ultra-talented shredders and prog dudes who did side projects where it feels as though they got together and slapped together an album's worth of material in a week or two, recorded it and sent it out the door. Bozzio Levin Stevens. Liquid Tension Experiment. Pinnick Gales Pridgen. Probably dozens more.

It probably won't make me very popular here, but I'd rather hear a band of moderately talented people who wrote some catchy songs and honed them to greatness. It's why the first two Poison albums are more listenable to me than Native Tongue (relatively speaking) even though Kotzen is a 500x better guitarist than CC DeVille.

I prefered Native Tongue over any CC Deville Poison album!! Yes, I was not a fan of Poison except for a few songs.

randyrules82 wrote:I prefered Native Tongue over any CC Deville Poison album!! Yes, I was not a fan of Poison except for a few songs.

Hey, different strokes.

All it means is you're probably a way better guitar player than I am.

benjamin801 wrote:

randyrules82 wrote:I prefered Native Tongue over any CC Deville Poison album!! Yes, I was not a fan of Poison except for a few songs.

Hey, different strokes.

All it means is you're probably a way better guitar player than I am.

Yep, we all have our own tastes and that is what makes it great. Diversity!!! I highly doubt I am a better guitar player than you, but I have been playing since 1978 or so whatever that is worth!!

Love this tune

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6Wq3ibVqE[/video]

One of the better "subgroups" to come out IMHO.

This is the band that originally had John Sykes on guitar and vocals but it fell apart and Sykes was replaced by Kotzen. I think I prefer Sykes to Kotzen.

It's good to know that Poison did three good things for Richie Kotzen:

1) Make him some money
2) Break him into the music biz
3) Prepare him to play with guys who like to hide their baldness under hats

benjamin801 wrote:It's good to know that Poison did three good things for Richie Kotzen:

1) Make him some money
2) Break him into the music biz
3) Prepare him to play with guys who like to hide their baldness under hats

You forgot to mention he got to sleep with Rikki Rocket's fiance, which he married and then divorced later!!! Plus they had a daughter. So it looks like Richie got something out of being with Poison in addtion to music!!!

randyrules82 wrote:You forgot to mention he got to sleep with Rikki Rocket's fiance, which he married and then divorced later!!! Plus they had a daughter. So it looks like Richie got something out of being with Poison in addtion to music!!!

Oh, I forgot all about that! I watched the VH1 Behind The Music and Rikki and Bret were still totally salty about that even like 15 years later, not that I blame them. I guess that's what they get for inviting someone into their band who was a better singer than Bret, better guitarist than CC, and better looking than any of them...