BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
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BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
All right GGF! It's been a year to say the least, so let's let off some steam with our time honored tradition.
These are the rules:
Please post pictures of your rig ready to go, wired up, passing signal. Passing signal should be a clear link between instrument and amps for the amp categories (if your boards are in those rigs then signal should pass through those). For the pedal boards we are asking that we can see pedals on (not necessarily all) and cables going into and out of the board. If you have a wireless unit please ensure we can see something plugged into a guitar and the wireless receiver on. If your amp has a standby it can be in the standby position as volume may be an issue depending on where and when you’re taking said pics. As long as I see that the amp is on, we’re good (plus flipping off standby isn’t really a hard thing to do at a gig).
This is not a "gear collection" contest. It's all about the RIG.
Maximum of 2 guitars in the rig picture. For the same reason as above.
Pictures used on previous BOTRs will not be allowed. Please take a new picture for this contest. If you would like to do Rig Rundown videos for your categories those are also encouraged and accepted. Have some fun with this.
You can enter multiple categories if you have different rigs. But only one entry per category is allowed. For example if you have a combo and a 1/2 stack you can enter both categories. If you have 2 half-stacks, pick your best one and enter once in that category. The one exception to this the stereo/WDW/multi amp category.
This year we have a new category: Best Vintage Rig. To qualify, only the head or combo must be from the 1980s or earlier. If you have a vintage guitar to go along with said amp and cab for more authenticity by all means include it. This is open to combos and head/cabs. So as not to double dip the exact same rig in multiple categories, please enter the vintage rig only in the vintage rig category.
We’re also expanding the Butter Dungeon Cateogry from last year to include other members jam spaces/areas.
The post threads will be open Monday May 31st until Monday June 28th 12PM PDT. After that point Billy or I will lock the post threads and create voting polls.
Voting starts on the 29th and goes until Tueaday July 6th 12PM PDT. 7 days should be enough for voting.
The winners of each category will then compete for "Best Overall Rig of 2021" From July 7th to July 14th 12 PDT.
WE HAVE PRIZES!!!
Individual Category Prizes: Winners will receive a set of Slagle Strings 10 - 46s.
Grand Prizes for Overall winners: A grand prize has been offered by our forumite duncan. I’ll be adding a runner up prize as well. Mort has added his Boss Super Chorus to the Runner Up Pool and now Ibenhad has added his BBE Sonic Stomp.
Prizes are a Xotic AC Booster for the grand prize and a Bill Lawrence USA L-500XL, BBE Sonic Stomp or Boss CH-1 Super Chorus for Second, Third and 4th Place (2nd place gets first call, then 3rd, etc).
Contest is open to all GGF members with 10 posts or more.
Creating alts for voting purposes will automatically disqualify you, not to mention you will also get some days off.
Inviting new members to join and vote is not only allowed, it is encouraged! Help spread the word about GGF!
Finally, please keep the post threads for gear pictures only and take all the discussion to this thread. That will keep things easier.
These are the rules:
Please post pictures of your rig ready to go, wired up, passing signal. Passing signal should be a clear link between instrument and amps for the amp categories (if your boards are in those rigs then signal should pass through those). For the pedal boards we are asking that we can see pedals on (not necessarily all) and cables going into and out of the board. If you have a wireless unit please ensure we can see something plugged into a guitar and the wireless receiver on. If your amp has a standby it can be in the standby position as volume may be an issue depending on where and when you’re taking said pics. As long as I see that the amp is on, we’re good (plus flipping off standby isn’t really a hard thing to do at a gig).
This is not a "gear collection" contest. It's all about the RIG.
Maximum of 2 guitars in the rig picture. For the same reason as above.
Pictures used on previous BOTRs will not be allowed. Please take a new picture for this contest. If you would like to do Rig Rundown videos for your categories those are also encouraged and accepted. Have some fun with this.
You can enter multiple categories if you have different rigs. But only one entry per category is allowed. For example if you have a combo and a 1/2 stack you can enter both categories. If you have 2 half-stacks, pick your best one and enter once in that category. The one exception to this the stereo/WDW/multi amp category.
This year we have a new category: Best Vintage Rig. To qualify, only the head or combo must be from the 1980s or earlier. If you have a vintage guitar to go along with said amp and cab for more authenticity by all means include it. This is open to combos and head/cabs. So as not to double dip the exact same rig in multiple categories, please enter the vintage rig only in the vintage rig category.
We’re also expanding the Butter Dungeon Cateogry from last year to include other members jam spaces/areas.
The post threads will be open Monday May 31st until Monday June 28th 12PM PDT. After that point Billy or I will lock the post threads and create voting polls.
Voting starts on the 29th and goes until Tueaday July 6th 12PM PDT. 7 days should be enough for voting.
The winners of each category will then compete for "Best Overall Rig of 2021" From July 7th to July 14th 12 PDT.
WE HAVE PRIZES!!!
Individual Category Prizes: Winners will receive a set of Slagle Strings 10 - 46s.
Grand Prizes for Overall winners: A grand prize has been offered by our forumite duncan. I’ll be adding a runner up prize as well. Mort has added his Boss Super Chorus to the Runner Up Pool and now Ibenhad has added his BBE Sonic Stomp.
Prizes are a Xotic AC Booster for the grand prize and a Bill Lawrence USA L-500XL, BBE Sonic Stomp or Boss CH-1 Super Chorus for Second, Third and 4th Place (2nd place gets first call, then 3rd, etc).
Contest is open to all GGF members with 10 posts or more.
Creating alts for voting purposes will automatically disqualify you, not to mention you will also get some days off.
Inviting new members to join and vote is not only allowed, it is encouraged! Help spread the word about GGF!
Finally, please keep the post threads for gear pictures only and take all the discussion to this thread. That will keep things easier.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
Haven't decided yet what it will be but I'm gonna come up with a prize for something as well
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Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
By all means, Mort. If you have something you feel would be better than what I’m offering myself (the Lawrence pickup) let me know and we can put that up instead.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
Alright. It’s 10:30 where I am. In the morning I go grocery shopping pretty quick. It’s less than two hours before 5/31 eastern time but I’m unlocking the threads now. Have fun guys.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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greatmutah wrote:By all means, Mort. If you have something you feel would be better than what I’m offering myself (the Lawrence pickup) let me know and we can put that up instead.
Not instead... in addition to. I was thinking it might be fun to add a prize for 3rd place in a particular category or two. I have some cool old guitar straps, maybe a couple of pedals, etc. Tomorrow I'll nail it down and post it
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Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
Thanks as always, GM. I feel like I could clean up in some of these new categories, but as 2020 overall BOTR winner, I am taking this year off. I'll let the hommies battle it out and see you in 2022.
Consider yourself glove-slapped, GGF.
Consider yourself glove-slapped, GGF.
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itchyfingers wrote:Thanks as always, GM. I feel like I could clean up in some of these new categories, but as 2020 overall BOTR winner, I am taking this year off. I'll let the hommies battle it out and see you in 2022.
Consider yourself glove-slapped, GGF.
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Ok how 'bout a Boss Super Chorus CH-1 for the 3rd place overall and a vintage Doctor Song strap for the last place in the overall?
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Very generous, Mort!!!!
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Walt wrote:But when the hour is nigh, and the lights are low, and I got a little toothpick of a shwag joint in my teeth, and my friends want to hear me play "Into the Void", or "TNT", "or "Cemetery Gates"...I plug my 600 dollar guitar into my 150 dollar amp, and I am a Rawk gawd.
Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
does the pedal count include utility pedals like aby, tuners, volume etc?
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Also, do foot switches for an amp count towards the pedal count?
I used to play guitar.
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Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
Yes to the utility pedals. Footswitch no as long as it’s the actual amp’s footswitch or generic 1 or 2 button. Not a switching unit like a GCX or Boss MS or ES series. Those are pedals.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Some good entries so far. Keep em coming guys! I’ll try to get mine in tomorrow.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
Assuming I get ambitious enough to extract my main rig from the musical abyss that is the back room long enough to get decent pictures, which is a mighty big assumption, where would a rig consisting of a combo on top of another 1x12 cab fit? That's my most used with both speakers live and is really the only thing I count as a 'rig.'
Though I suppose I could toss a bone into the budget realm with my Studio Pro and Agile 8 string with an overdrive, but let's not start by assuming I'm gonna be ambitious enough to pull TWO rigs out of the back room.
Though I suppose I could toss a bone into the budget realm with my Studio Pro and Agile 8 string with an overdrive, but let's not start by assuming I'm gonna be ambitious enough to pull TWO rigs out of the back room.
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nightflameauto wrote:Assuming I get ambitious enough to extract my main rig from the musical abyss that is the back room long enough to get decent pictures, which is a mighty big assumption, where would a rig consisting of a combo on top of another 1x12 cab fit? That's my most used with both speakers live and is really the only thing I count as a 'rig.'
Though I suppose I could toss a bone into the budget realm with my Studio Pro and Agile 8 string with an overdrive, but let's not start by assuming I'm gonna be ambitious enough to pull TWO rigs out of the back room.
I'd still call it a combo, since the main amp is a combo and you're using the combo speaker.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Anyone care if the same pedal board features in two rigs? My combo and stack share that element
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1978 Greco ES335
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_ej_ wrote:Anyone care if the same pedal board features in two rigs? My combo and stack share that element
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Walt wrote:But when the hour is nigh, and the lights are low, and I got a little toothpick of a shwag joint in my teeth, and my friends want to hear me play "Into the Void", or "TNT", "or "Cemetery Gates"...I plug my 600 dollar guitar into my 150 dollar amp, and I am a Rawk gawd.
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No worries.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Picked 5 categories and going to try to not repeat a single piece of gear
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I have so much gear and all of it is interchangeable I don't even know what I use anymore
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“Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more”
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl
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Ibenhad has added a BBE Sonic Stomp to the price pool for the final category. So we have the AC Booster at number 1, and 2,3 and 4 get either a Sonic Stomp, Boss CH-1 or L-500XL. Get some more stuff posted guys! Yes I know I haven’t posted yet either. I’m gonna get on it this week I promise!
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Nice ! now we have more prizes than entrants .
“Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more”
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl
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Pretty sure I have participated in every BOTR. I don't have anything special this time around but will still post because it is fun.
Re: BOTR 2021 Rules and Discussion Thread
some really nice gear starting to pop up
“Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more”
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl