BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Moderators: greatmutah, GuitarBilly
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
All right GGF! It's been a year to say the least, so let's let off some steam with our time honored tradition.
These are the rules:
Please post pictures of your rig ready to go, wired up, passing signal. This is not a "gear collection" contest. It's all about the RIG.
Maximum of 2 guitars in the rig picture. For the same reason as above.
Pictures used on previous BOTRs will not be allowed. Please take a new picture for this contest
You can enter multiple categories if you have different rigs. But only one entry per category is allowed. For example if you have a combo and a 1/2 stack you can enter both categories. If you have 2 half-stacks, pick your best one and enter once in that category.
The post threads will be open Monday June 8th until Monday June 29th 12PM PDT. After that point Billy or I will lock the post threads and create voting polls.
Voting starts on the 30th and goes until Sunday July 5th 12PM PDT. 6 days should be enough for voting.
The winners of each category will then compete for "Best Overall Rig of 2020" From July 6th to July 11th 12 PDT.
WE HAVE PRIZES!!!
Individual Category Prizes: Winners will receive a set of Throbak 10-46 Pure Nickel Strings.
Grand Prizes for Overall winners: Prizes have been offered and donated by our member Fretless. Since they're both fairly close in value, I've decided this year that the grand prize winner will have first dibs of which he wants and the remainder prize will go to the runner up.
Prizes are a choice between a practically brand new WGS G12C 8 Ohm Speaker that has never been installed and a practically NOS Lane Poor Acoustic Guitar Pickup system, courtesy of Fretless. Grand prize winner first pick and runner up receives the second. Please note, that due to these being from Fretless's personal collection he is requesting that if the winner is outside of the US that they work with him to make and pay for shipping arrangements.
Contest is open to all GGF members with 10 posts or more.
Creating alts for voting purposes will automatically disqualify you, not to mention you will also get some days off.
Inviting new members to join and vote is not only allowed, it is encouraged! Help spread the word about GGF!
Finally, please keep the post threads for gear pictures only and take all the discussion to this thread. That will keep things easier.
Thanks!!!!!!!!
These are the rules:
Please post pictures of your rig ready to go, wired up, passing signal. This is not a "gear collection" contest. It's all about the RIG.
Maximum of 2 guitars in the rig picture. For the same reason as above.
Pictures used on previous BOTRs will not be allowed. Please take a new picture for this contest
You can enter multiple categories if you have different rigs. But only one entry per category is allowed. For example if you have a combo and a 1/2 stack you can enter both categories. If you have 2 half-stacks, pick your best one and enter once in that category.
The post threads will be open Monday June 8th until Monday June 29th 12PM PDT. After that point Billy or I will lock the post threads and create voting polls.
Voting starts on the 30th and goes until Sunday July 5th 12PM PDT. 6 days should be enough for voting.
The winners of each category will then compete for "Best Overall Rig of 2020" From July 6th to July 11th 12 PDT.
WE HAVE PRIZES!!!
Individual Category Prizes: Winners will receive a set of Throbak 10-46 Pure Nickel Strings.
Grand Prizes for Overall winners: Prizes have been offered and donated by our member Fretless. Since they're both fairly close in value, I've decided this year that the grand prize winner will have first dibs of which he wants and the remainder prize will go to the runner up.
Prizes are a choice between a practically brand new WGS G12C 8 Ohm Speaker that has never been installed and a practically NOS Lane Poor Acoustic Guitar Pickup system, courtesy of Fretless. Grand prize winner first pick and runner up receives the second. Please note, that due to these being from Fretless's personal collection he is requesting that if the winner is outside of the US that they work with him to make and pay for shipping arrangements.
Contest is open to all GGF members with 10 posts or more.
Creating alts for voting purposes will automatically disqualify you, not to mention you will also get some days off.
Inviting new members to join and vote is not only allowed, it is encouraged! Help spread the word about GGF!
Finally, please keep the post threads for gear pictures only and take all the discussion to this thread. That will keep things easier.
Thanks!!!!!!!!
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Are late entries/poll resets allowed?
Cameron Amps wrote:He's right....I think VTMs sound great....go get one. No nos tubes needed.
TurboPablo wrote:Scribble strips are for kids.
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Dick Butter Nuts wrote:Are late entries/poll resets allowed?
I’ve done it before but I’d rather not if absolutely possible.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Well... I guess that'll kick my ass into gear to get my new pedalboard done!
Co-founder of the Jet Setters 2.0 (Jet ★ City Lounge Redux)
Gear
DIY
Gear
- CEOwLP (Sig T), Carvin DC135, Westone Spectrum SX (guitar) & GT (bass), Squier strat
- '66 Bassman, '61 Magnatone, Mark III, 1960AX, homebrew 2x12 (C90 / EVM12L Thiele), HX Stomp, JCA50H
- PLX GABion, SD-1, TS9, Crybaby, MXR108, Algal clone, Carbon Copy deluxe
DIY
- New workshop - Teh GRIMESHOP™!
- Bassman overhaul - G-MAN
- Home studio - GRIMESPACE Sound Lab!
Ostinato Rubato wrote:"That's the second boomery bro on this forum I've helped seduce to the greenside."
"Slow and steady gets to **** again eventually"
- ajaxlepinski
- Crystal Lettucer
- Posts: 23723
- Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:35 am
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT!!!
1969 Sunn Solarus ● 2x 1980's Randall RG-80 ● 2013 Hi-Tone HT103-DG (Best Rig 2014) ● 2015 Mortatone 12/15 Cab w/EV SRO's ● 2017 Jubilee ● 2019 Ceriatone Model Tee ● 2019 Randall Diavlo ● 2020 VHT D50 Dumble Clone
Walt wrote:But when the hour is nigh, and the lights are low, and I got a little toothpick of a shwag joint in my teeth, and my friends want to hear me play "Into the Void", or "TNT", "or "Cemetery Gates"...I plug my 600 dollar guitar into my 150 dollar amp, and I am a Rawk gawd.
- itchyfingers
- Crystal Lettucer
- Posts: 10987
- Joined: Tue May 28, 2013 1:51 am
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Thanks for taking the torch again, GM.
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Heck yeah. Entering this year.
Do we have a preliminary category list, or is it the same as last year?
Do we have a preliminary category list, or is it the same as last year?
I used to play guitar.
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Probably same as last year. We made some expansion into rack rigs last year so I hope to see more of those this year.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
- nightflameauto
- Crystal Lettucer
- Posts: 15543
- Joined: Thu May 30, 2013 10:29 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Since my recording rig is a smorgasbord of different shit, I wouldn't even know what category I'd try to fit in. I'm running a combo in 4CM with a rack then powering a separate cab with it.
So is that combo, rack, mini/half stack, fustercluck or shitshow?
And since I already know what he'll say here: SHUT UP, DBN!
So is that combo, rack, mini/half stack, fustercluck or shitshow?
And since I already know what he'll say here: SHUT UP, DBN!
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Umm... studio! Man that is a cluster.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
nightflameauto wrote:Since my recording rig is a smorgasbord of different shit, I wouldn't even know what category I'd try to fit in. I'm running a combo in 4CM with a rack then powering a separate cab with it.
So is that combo, rack, mini/half stack, fustercluck or shitshow?
And since I already know what he'll say here: SHUT UP, DBN!
Don't flatter yourself.
Like I give a shit what crap you're playing through.
Cameron Amps wrote:He's right....I think VTMs sound great....go get one. No nos tubes needed.
TurboPablo wrote:Scribble strips are for kids.
- GuitarBilly
- Chief Executive Owl
- Posts: 48416
- Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:03 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
nightflameauto wrote:Since my recording rig is a smorgasbord of different shit, I wouldn't even know what category I'd try to fit in. I'm running a combo in 4CM with a rack then powering a separate cab with it.
So is that combo, rack, mini/half stack, fustercluck or shitshow?
And since I already know what he'll say here: SHUT UP, DBN!
I'd say it's a combo rig still...
Guitars:
'78 Les Paul Pro / '89 SG Special/ '04 Gibson Les Paul Classic 3 pickup / Jackson Star/ Endres Tele / Fernandes Rhoads/ ''74 Hohner MIJ strat/ 2 Partscasters
Amps:
Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol
Cabs
Marshall 1960A w V30s/ Seismic 2x12 w Redback and V30.
Questions about the forum: please PM here. Can't access the forum? Need a password reset? Please access our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/GuitarGearForumOfficial and message me through it.
'78 Les Paul Pro / '89 SG Special/ '04 Gibson Les Paul Classic 3 pickup / Jackson Star/ Endres Tele / Fernandes Rhoads/ ''74 Hohner MIJ strat/ 2 Partscasters
Amps:
Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol
Cabs
Marshall 1960A w V30s/ Seismic 2x12 w Redback and V30.
Questions about the forum: please PM here. Can't access the forum? Need a password reset? Please access our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/GuitarGearForumOfficial and message me through it.
- nightflameauto
- Crystal Lettucer
- Posts: 15543
- Joined: Thu May 30, 2013 10:29 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
GuitarBilly wrote:nightflameauto wrote:Since my recording rig is a smorgasbord of different shit, I wouldn't even know what category I'd try to fit in. I'm running a combo in 4CM with a rack then powering a separate cab with it.
So is that combo, rack, mini/half stack, fustercluck or shitshow?
And since I already know what he'll say here: SHUT UP, DBN!
I'd say it's a combo rig still...
Technically the combo is just a head as the internal speaker is shut off.
Meh. Dunno why I'm worrying about it. I'll never take a picture of it in its current state anyway. There's literally toys and bikes and shit piled all around it right now.
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Individual Category Threads have been loaded and locked for now. I'll do the unlocking Monday morning.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Alright here’s a question before I go take photos:
I use the same big pedalboard for my multiple rigs. I carry it between my head/cab rig and my combo rig.
Now, do I include it in my head/cab and combo submissions, or just enter it in the pedalboard category?
I use the same big pedalboard for my multiple rigs. I carry it between my head/cab rig and my combo rig.
Now, do I include it in my head/cab and combo submissions, or just enter it in the pedalboard category?
I used to play guitar.
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
You can include it as part of your submissions for the others but submit it on its own for the respective pedalboard. I mean if it’s part of the full rig then use it. I always voted based on the head/cab or combo for that setup more than anything.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
sooooooo....do Tuners count as a pedal on your board?? lol
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
So tuners: if it’s a rack tuner, no it doesn’t count. If it’s a snark or clip on, no it doesn’t count. If it’s a pedal tuner then it counts as a pedal lol.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
greatmutah wrote:So tuners: if it’s a rack tuner, no it doesn’t count. If it’s a snark or clip on, no it doesn’t count. If it’s a pedal tuner then it counts as a pedal lol.
damn it..... well.. just gonna have to adjust my small board a bit....... lol
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
greatmutah wrote:You can include it as part of your submissions for the others but submit it on its own for the respective pedalboard. I mean if it’s part of the full rig then use it. I always voted based on the head/cab or combo for that setup more than anything.
Yeah that’s what I figured.
K photos happening tonight. Thanks!!
I used to play guitar.
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
K one more question: my head/cab rig has two heads and two cabs. Is that allowed?
I used to play guitar.
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
It is not. If you have two heads and two cabs, pick the best one.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
- greatmutah
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
Prizes announced, see the rules above. I'd also like to add, we're going to be more strict about enforcing passing signal this year. I was lax about it last year myself and even I posted some pics not passing signal. To be fair to everyone, I'm going to be better about my own submissions for one, and make sure you guys are good about yours too. If anyone posts any, generally I will PM you first so you can update your post. However, if it's not updated by the time we go to vote, I will have to remove the post and rig from the category. I'd hate to see anyone lose out on participating because of something simple. And by passing signal we just want to see it on, lit up, even if it's just the board. Hell even if your modeler is an old floorboard from 1999 with ugly monochrome alarm clock font, fire it up and let us see the pretty lights and such. Thanks guys. Not trying to be a douche. Just staying in the spirit of what this should be.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
Re: BOTR 2020 Rules and Discussion Thread
The WGS is new , never installed . I installed the other one and have this extra . These are fantastic drivers . Big Chime and tight clear bottom . Just a great guitar speaker all around .
The Lane is killer . I have 2 , never even unboxed this . It's from the 80's or 90's and sounds warm and organic . If you know about Lane you know what this is ya hippies .
easy to use , just slip under and squeeze in
The Lane is killer . I have 2 , never even unboxed this . It's from the 80's or 90's and sounds warm and organic . If you know about Lane you know what this is ya hippies .
easy to use , just slip under and squeeze in
“Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more”
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl
― Nikola Tesla
“I cannot be arsed with this right now”
― MISTER NOBODY™
"Stand up for what you believe in even if you are standing alone"
― Sophie Scholl