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Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:20 am
by neilrocks25
Automation will be taking jobs more and more over the next few years.
I know my job will be obsolete in the next 5 to 10 years (possibly even earlier) I work in communications for Trading systems and With Skype for business and other programs for Trading taking over from tradition systems I see my job going.
do you think this will effect your work? If so do you have a back up plan?
For example I looking to redo my networking certs and hopefully get into network security (though a bit of long shot as I am in my 40's).
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:27 am
by _ej_
I work for a contract engineering firm and a lot of my work is designing automation equipment

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:29 am
by neilrocks25
_ej_ wrote:I work for a contract engineering firm and a lot of my work is designing automation equipment

Yours is the kind of job that will last.
I wont be replaced by a robot but software. I just hope I am clever enough to adapt

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:30 am
by _ej_
neilrocks25 wrote:_ej_ wrote:I work for a contract engineering firm and a lot of my work is designing automation equipment

Yours is the kind of job that will last.
I wont be replaced by a robot but software. I just hope I am clever enough to adapt

Yeah I made a good choice as far as engineering not being a career that will become obsolete.
I really want to get back into the med device field though. I don't really like automation design.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:36 am
by Dave
I'm sure I could keep bouncing around as a PM, but I'm socking money away and hope to exit the corporate world at some point. Hopefully when it's my choice, and not theirs.
Current plan is to buy a rehearsal studio, and implement all the oddball "asks" of the typical musician. Onsite string/picks/Snark type of vending machine, onsite jam room for small events, climate controlled rooms that don't smell like a toilet...
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:36 am
by BleedingWhiskey
I'm an electrical designer for a Houston M.E.P. firm. I mainly do lighting and power design for tenant interior construction and renovation. Mostly low to high rise office building spaces and medical facilities. My job involves a lot of complex problem solving and drawing. Also, not every project is completely cut and dry and no project is ever exactly the same. While not completely impossible, it's very unlikely it would ever be automated.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:38 am
by itchyfingers
I saw a guy on facebook the other day saying if you lose your job to a robot, you are a moron. You are a moron because you didn't see it coming and you should have been lining up a career change. I see where he's coming from, but I don't think that I'm at risk. Most software/server stuff, drivers, deliveries, customer service, transportation I can see being the first to be replaced, but I think the science/medical field are a long way from automating. If a robot can communicate with the FDA and get clearance, I will gladly hand over my job to an automated counterpart.

I also think, possibly due to my science-fiction laded childhood, that all this automated shit is gonna break sooner than later.

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:41 am
by TurboPablo
I know that my job can be automated. But I am not sure that my particular facility could ever be fully automated. Without going into the esoterics of moving millions of pounds of water around safely, I'll just say trust me, it's tricky and requires real time human experience and interface.
As corny as it sounds, there is a particular voodoo involved. I have experience doing it but it still terrifies me.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:42 am
by JerEvil
My particular job will likely be in tact but a lot of my employees will likely have to learn a new skill set unfortunately. We are moving more and more to customer driven execution for print materials. We have gone from more one-off design to templates formats with a new project starting making the templates editable online with fixed image and copy areas. Great for the business but tough for the team.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:49 am
by neilrocks25
TurboPablo wrote:I know that my job can be automated. But I am not sure that my particular facility could ever be fully automated. Without going into the esoterics of moving millions of pounds of water around safely, I'll just say trust me, it's tricky and requires real time human experience and interface.
As corny as it sounds, there is a particular voodoo involved. I have experience doing it but it still terrifies me.
I thought my Job would be safer for Longer because I can deal with people and that is a huge part of my Job, part analyst part engineer. But if it can be run from a call centre in India they will, no matter how poor the service
Maybe or maybe not luckily I work in the banking environment and once in it can help you stay in (ie you can deal with rich people with no common sense) If I can make some contacts I might be able to change from communications to networks (its not a great leap).
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:25 pm
by GuitarBilly
Sure. But as technology evolves, new jobs are also created. For example, back in the 80's and up to mid 90's, "web design" was for spiders. Today is a well-known job. So is Social Media expert, SEO specialist, blogger, app developer and many others.... industries like renewable energy will also create a lot of new opportunities... I think the future of your career is more dependent on your ability to adapt and change than whether your job will be automated or not.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:28 pm
by Krunchmeister
Bots are a boon to the rich and a scourge to everyone else. Trump would like to use slave-labor to build a wall with mud and straw

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:29 pm
by sleewell
if we built more walls this would not be an issue.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:42 pm
by Noah
I'm kind of pissed that we have to work at all. Robots should be doing everything by now.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:47 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
Wayne wrote:I'm kind of pissed that we have to work at all. Robots should be doing everything by now.
you liberal bum
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:49 pm
by Ostinato Rubato
You can't automate Human Resources, so I'm good.
Good luck to the rest of you.


Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:50 pm
by GuitarBilly
I don't think this thread is gonna go political but I will leave this here just for good measure

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:53 pm
by ajaxlepinski
I worked, for 24 years, in the printing industry. First to go were the financial printers - they printed, folded, stapled and mailed millions of reports every year. Now, you can get your report online. Next, the small printers who made letterheads and business card started dropping like flies... now, you can print your stationary and flyers on a home computer. Packaging printers, large format and heat transfer printers will always be around - someone has to print and die cut the box that your pizza comes in.
Now, I'm in transportation sales... everyone needs to get from point A to point B... for the moment!

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:57 pm
by ajaxlepinski
Wayne wrote:I'm kind of pissed that we have to work at all. Robots should be doing everything by now.
Wasn't there a sci-fi movie where eveyone owned a robot that went to work for them?
If you had the newest model, you made more money - if your robot was old and falling apart, you ate rice and beans.

Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:19 pm
by soulsurfer
I'm seeing a push lately for the trades again. I'm thinking to myself - "that is a short lived trek". For instance a lot of manufacturing went to Asia, but welding is being pushed here in the states now.
Sure, bring back manufacturing. But the push for ppl to learn a trades skill will diminish once the cost of automating becomes cheaper than hiring. Shit that's why they went over seas to begin with - cheap labor. Why pony up to have the machines to do the work when we can have slave labor make it for pennies on the dollar.
Bringing it back here? Even if they do, there's just so many benefits to automation.
Then joe shmuck gets pushed lower and lower on the pay scale until he's stuck with a barely livable wage welding job or learning yet another skill late in career/life.
I'm gonna become an entrepreneur. I think I'll sell homobilly hats to millennials and camo socks to metal-heads.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:19 pm
by Noah
MR RUBATO wrote:you liberal bum

yeah work sucks. I don't want to go anymore.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:20 pm
by Noah
ajaxlepinski wrote:Wayne wrote:I'm kind of pissed that we have to work at all. Robots should be doing everything by now.
Wasn't there a sci-fi movie where eveyone owned a robot that went to work for them?
If you had the newest model, you made more money - if your robot was old and falling apart, you ate rice and beans.


this would be great.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:23 pm
by Dave
JerEvil wrote:My particular job will likely be in tact but a lot of my employees will likely have to learn a new skill set unfortunately. We are moving more and more to customer driven execution for print materials. We have gone from more one-off design to templates formats with a new project starting making the templates editable online with fixed image and copy areas. Great for the business but tough for the team.
I always wondered why large businesses made one-off designs in this day and age. At the last bank I was PM'ing some of our outgoing solicitation letters for the MHA programs to help underwater borrowers. We had vendors creating their own merge letter templates, and then I'd have to send them off to creative for their approval before going down the legal, risk, and compliance path. I never understood why we didn't have letter templates for them to start with so they didn't have to keep trying to match Bank of America red on their version. Or using their proprietary "flagscape" font. Or any of the other spacing/sizing/scaling issues they'd come back to us with.
Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:28 pm
by BroSlinger
Wayne wrote:MR RUBATO wrote:you liberal bum

yeah work sucks. I don't want to go anymore.
You're just not gonna go?
yeah.
Won't you get fired?
I don't know, but I really don't like it, and I'm just not gonna go
so, you're gonna quit?
no. i don't know. I'm just not gonna go.
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Re: Automation and Jobs
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:30 pm
by The Anomaly
I don't think I make enough for my job to go away

Just in case, maybe I'll reinvent the "Jump To Conclusions" game.