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CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:38 am
by draelyc
Okay, having recently acquired one of these:

and one of these:

it was time to run a couple quick clips. I've been trying to get the fx loop in this:

to play nice with my pedals for a while, and the Morley was recommended to me as a device that would enable me to tame the ridiculously powerful signal coming out of the fx send so it wouldn't completely overdrive my time-based fx. And I think it works... pretty well. The amp loses a bit of sparkle and "feel" ... well, I think it does. Y'all listen to the clips and tell me.
I threw in a quick Plexi clip just for fun/comparison.
Everything was recorded just now, in the wee hours as my girls are sleeping, direct to the board using the Koch Dummybox and no other processing/eq'ing/etc.
Right, so clips:
First, the Bonneville with the loop completely hard-bypassed:
Bonneville, NO LOOPThen, the B'ville with the loop engaged & running through the Morley. No fx on, just testing the tone difference when engaging the loop & the Morley device.
Bonnville w/ LOOP & MORLEYAnd lastly, Plexi goodness (still running the Omnisonic volume knob in the loop to tame the overall level, so no power tube overdrive here ~ just preamp):
Plexi w/ temp master volumeLemme know whatch'all think!
C
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:46 am
by Diddlybo
I like the Plexi.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:57 am
by draelyc
Diddlybo wrote:I like the Plexi.
Thanks!
Any thoughts on the differences between the two B'ville clips?
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:04 am
by NaturalBornBoy
I don't hear a difference in tone between the two clips.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:05 am
by Devin
To me all three clips sounded pretty damn similar, except the Plexi clip is louder

Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:06 am
by GAS KING
I like the 2nd Bonnie clip best......but it sounds similar to the Plexi.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:08 am
by Dave
I think I prefer the Bonneville crunch but all 3 clips have the 'direct in to board' feel to em.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:08 am
by Dave
LesPaul-Marshall wrote::hmm:
Judgeing by the plexi clip i'm not sure why you need an attenuator ?
because he's playing silent and direct to the board.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:23 am
by colejustesen
I did hear a bit of the sparkle being lost between the Bonneville clips, but to me it was in favor for the tone. I liked the second clip of the Bonneville the best.
Cole
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:48 am
by draelyc
thanks for the feedback, fellas! This Morley does seem to be doing the trick, and that's way cool, because the fx loop issue was the main reason I was gonna sell the Bonneville; now that I can use my time based fx in the loop with it, it's totally gigable.

Chuck Nutz wrote:I think I prefer the Bonneville crunch but all 3 clips have the 'direct in to board' feel to em.
This is very true. Both amps definitely lose something when not pushing real air with a real speaker. Hopefully, in a song mix the loss will be negligible...?

Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:01 am
by Devin
I wonder if that Morley is a clone of the Ebtech line level shifter? They look very similar and are the same price.
I've heard bad things about that Ebtech, though

Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:03 am
by NaturalBornBoy
Devin wrote:I wonder if that Morley is a clone of the Ebtech line level shifter? They look very similar and are the same price.
I've heard bad things about that Ebtech, though

I've been using a Hum Eliminator for years and I don't notice anything bad about it.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:05 am
by draelyc
Devin wrote:I wonder if that Morley is a clone of the Ebtech line level shifter? They look very similar and are the same price.
I've heard bad things about that Ebtech, though

No. I have the EbTech unit. It works on impedence instead of voltage and though it fixed my level problems, it killed the amp's tone. The Morley works much better for this application, imo.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:15 am
by Devin
draelyc wrote:Devin wrote:I wonder if that Morley is a clone of the Ebtech line level shifter? They look very similar and are the same price.
I've heard bad things about that Ebtech, though

No. I have the EbTech unit. It works on impedence instead of voltage and though it fixed my level problems, it killed the amp's tone. The Morley works much better for this application, imo.
That's awesome! I could use something like this - i'll probably end up going for the Pigtronix Keymaster, though

Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:20 am
by draelyc
Devin wrote:That's awesome! I could use something like this - i'll probably end up going for the Pigtronix Keymaster, though

I have not heard of the Pigtronix unit ... Deets?
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:24 am
by Devin
It's spensive, but the ability to have expression control over any pedal (or to crossfade between pedalboards even), is pretty sick
http://www.pigtronix.com/products/keymaster/
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 am
by draelyc
Wow... the flexibility of that thing is pretty amazing!
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:17 am
by draelyc
Interesting that the Bonneville clip ~ especially the one with the loop engaged ~ got more positive comments. Cool ... I've been digging the B'ville a lot, lately, so nice affirmation there.

Thanks, y'all!
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:35 am
by leftyaxeman
I really like the plexi. The bonne clips, the difference is negligible.
Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:02 pm
by draelyc
leftyaxeman wrote:I really like the plexi. The bonne clips, the difference is negligible.
Thanks, brutha. I like the Plexi too, a lot ... I just wish (as blasphemous as it may be) that it had a tad more preamp gain on its own, y'know?
Thanks for taking time to check out the clips.

Re: CLIP TIME ~ CHECK 'EM, YO!
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:32 am
by draelyc
One more time around, y'all.
