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Who first started using the dropped-C (CGCFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:37 pm
by soundgardener75
EDIT: Did someone do it earlier than '94? And I'm not talking about C standard.

From what I can remember, it was Fight with War Of Words and Motley Crue's self-titled album with John Corabi.

Edited again, thanks ZEEGLER!

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:42 pm
by exafro
Didn't Page use open C on some songs? Not the exactly same, but close.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:48 pm
by Yarbicus
Not sure who first dropped the E string but I know YOUR MOM was the first to drop the G string!

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:51 pm
by soundgardener75
Yarbicus wrote:Not sure who first dropped the E string but I know YOUR MOM was the first to drop the G string!


:lol:

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:51 pm
by Yarbicus
soundgardener75 wrote:
Yarbicus wrote:Not sure who first dropped the E string but I know YOUR MOM was the first to drop the G string!


:lol:

:thu:

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:59 pm
by cibyl
Yarbicus wrote:Not sure who first dropped the E string but I know YOUR MOM was the first to drop the G string!


Ok,...I definitely lol'd

:lol:

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:05 pm
by cibyl
exafro wrote:Didn't Page use open C on some songs? Not the exactly same, but close.


Yup, Bron-Y-Aur/Poor Tom/Friends. Maybe a few more as well.

King's X has used versions of C, B and A tunings for years now. Saigon Kick tuned to C,....C.O.C as well on the Wiseblood record.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:57 pm
by Gunslinger
I would think maybe Iommi used it at some point or another? Maybe it's drop C# I'm thinking of.....

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:06 pm
by soundgardener75
cibyl wrote:King's X has used versions of C, B and A tunings for years now. Saigon Kick tuned to C,....C.O.C as well on the Wiseblood record.


Before '94? Saigon Kick tuned to dropped C# in 93 for Water. King's X was tuning to dropped C# on Dogman that year. Wiseblood didn't come out til '96.

Gunslinger: Iommi tuned as low as C#, but not just one string, he tuned his guitars to one and a half steps down.

I should've been more specific on the year. Let me edit my original post.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:31 pm
by phrophus
Acid Bath was using drop C# probably as early as 91 or 92.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:36 pm
by ovid9
Did Carcass go drop B or were they in B standard?

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:52 pm
by ***1776***
Im not sure if im reading this correctly are we talking THAT PARTICULAR tuning or just dropped and lower tunings in general?

Didnt the oldskool blues delta players from the 1930's 40's or so use drop tunings?


:idk:

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:56 pm
by Rocket Sauce
When I think of "dropped-c" tuning, I think of CGCFAD. I don't have the answer, I just wondered if there might be a mistake in the thread title or if it was intentional as there can be no doubt that I don't know shit about guitar and haven't heard of anyone using the CGDFAD tuning...

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:42 pm
by soundgardener75
***1776*** wrote:Im not sure if im reading this correctly are we talking THAT PARTICULAR tuning or just dropped and lower tunings in general?

Didnt the oldskool blues delta players from the 1930's 40's or so use drop tunings?


:idk:


That particular tuning that I posted at the title AND the first post is the one I have in question.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:23 am
by Van_Muddlestein
Soundgarden has been using it for a hot minute. King's X. Black Sabbath. Tool has always tuned to that from what I know of Tool(which isn't much cause I'm not into them)

It's been around for a minute. Who cares?

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:45 am
by TurboPablo
The Delta Blues guys used all kinds of wacky tunings. That being one of them. If I am to guess, Jimmy Page brought it back to some degree of prominence. Then, in the early 1990s', everyone started tuning wacky so they could play lazy single finger chords and shit.

Oh, Joni Mitchell also used some crazy C tuning too.

What's with that phrase "I ain't seen you in a minute."? Sounds awfully illiterate. Even for slang.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:04 am
by mrelusive
Neil Young used double dropped C (CGDFAC) on a few songs back in the day

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:25 am
by cibyl
soundgardener75 wrote:
cibyl wrote:King's X has used versions of C, B and A tunings for years now. Saigon Kick tuned to C,....C.O.C as well on the Wiseblood record.


Before '94? Saigon Kick tuned to dropped C# in 93 for Water. King's X was tuning to dropped C# on Dogman that year. Wiseblood didn't come out til '96.

Gunslinger: Iommi tuned as low as C#, but not just one string, he tuned his guitars to one and a half steps down.

I should've been more specific on the year. Let me edit my original post.


Saigon Kicked were tuned to C for "The Lizard" (1992),....I think anyway. Maybe it was C#. :lol:

King's X tuned to a dropped C for some songs on the self-titled record in 1992. "The Chariot Song" and the "Oh Song". Shit,..they actually may have been in B for those,....

You are right about Wiseblood -- 1996. For some reason I mix up the years for Deliverance and Wiseblood.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:33 am
by mrelusive
Actually, Senor Limpio is on Deliverance and it's in dropped C

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:00 pm
by 100 watt
Was listening to the "Live Volume" version of that earlier this A.M. .

I think that whole show is drop C & everything slowed down a cunt hair. Good stuff.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 pm
by mrelusive
mrelusive wrote:Neil Young used double dropped C (CGDFAC) on a few songs back in the day


Don't Let it Bring You Down was in this tuning on "After the Gold Rush" which came out in 1970.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:55 pm
by TyroneBiggums
Jazz guys always do everything first. Tapping, sweep picking, pinch harmonics, you name it, they did it first.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:24 pm
by ZEEGLER
I've never even heard of tuning like that before. I do a lot of stuff in drop C (CGCFAD), but not CGDFAD. I'm sure that's not referred to as drop-C.

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:10 pm
by soundgardener75
ZEEGLER wrote:I've never even heard of tuning like that before. I do a lot of stuff in drop C (CGCFAD), but not CGDFAD. I'm sure that's not referred to as drop-C.


Aw fuck, my bad! Thanks for correcting me! :lol:

Re: Who first started using the dropped-C (CGDFAD) tuning?

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:46 pm
by ZEEGLER
soundgardener75 wrote:
ZEEGLER wrote:I've never even heard of tuning like that before. I do a lot of stuff in drop C (CGCFAD), but not CGDFAD. I'm sure that's not referred to as drop-C.


Aw fuck, my bad! Thanks for correcting me! :lol:


Hehe, I didn't realize it was a typo. I thought it was some obscure tuning that I managed to never hear about. :D