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Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:03 am
by iggs
Hey all!

I have AD and AD2 for drums in Logic9 and wondering if getting Superior Drummer 2 or Steven Slate Drums would be something worth looking into.

I'm primarily looking for rock and indie sounds and since I'm no audio engineer, ready-to-mix setups and presets are essential.

Also, my MacBook Pro is a few years old at this point so CPU and RAM heavy plug-ins tend to be an issue ... even with AD2 I run into issues if using split-outs so I usually use it as stereo and freeze the track.

Thanks!

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:08 am
by rear naked
Ready to mix?

Ezdrummer with expansion packs I say.

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:54 am
by iggs
Went ahead and got Steven Slate Drums ... here's a raw and mixed sample:

RAW:
https://soundcloud.com/nshc4ever/ssd-drums-raw

MIXED:
https://soundcloud.com/nshc4ever/ssd-drums-mixd

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:50 am
by nakedzen
I like Slate the best myself too. :thu:

I still hate how dry and close mic'd everything sounds on them (my personal gripe with programmed drums) because there's no bleed so it sounds kind of unnatural.

I usually put the Finnvox Studio drum room reverb impulse on the drum bus to combat this. :)

Download links in video description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6b5kmc4I3o

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:06 am
by ajaxlepinski
Post to check out after work.

I'm in need of a better drum plugin.

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:15 am
by nightflameauto
iggs wrote:Also, my MacBook Pro is a few years old at this point so CPU and RAM heavy plug-ins tend to be an issue ... even with AD2 I run into issues if using split-outs so I usually use it as stereo and freeze the track.

Thanks!

Big secret to drum tracks is to break apart the MIDI track into smaller bits. A long MIDI track can cause even a stout system to go shitty, but you break it up by song sections and it's not bad at all. Makes zero sense why it is that way, but it is.

I dig AD2's bleed and snare response to kicks and toms. Sounds a little more real to me than some of the more isolated stuff I've heard.

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:28 am
by iggs
nightflameauto wrote:Big secret to drum tracks is to break apart the MIDI track into smaller bits. A long MIDI track can cause even a stout system to go shitty, but you break it up by song sections and it's not bad at all. Makes zero sense why it is that way, but it is.


Great tip! Thanks ... never though of doing that.

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:37 pm
by ascard
Sounds great, I use Superior because DFH was terrible for me, but always looking to find a better drums sound I'll take a look at Addictive!

Re: Superior vs. Addictive vs. SSD for drums?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:19 pm
by JerEvil
nakedzen wrote:I like Slate the best myself too. :thu:

I still hate how dry and close mic'd everything sounds on them (my personal gripe with programmed drums) because there's no bleed so it sounds kind of unnatural.

I usually put the Finnvox Studio drum room reverb impulse on the drum bus to combat this. :)

Download links in video description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6b5kmc4I3o

Yeah, I am a Slate guy at heart. Been using them for years. I like EZD but I keep going back to SSD. I'll have to check out that impulse.