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I can't seem to get it the way I want it... I want the trail before the snare hit ala 'SHHHHHHHH *SNARE*'

Yeah I need to know hoe to do this for vocals to like :wooooooosh..YAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!" like some backwards Halford stuff!

I've done it, but it's a HUGE pain in the ass. And trying to sort out my thought process is probably going to be an even bigger pain in the ass than actually doing it.

Start with your source, snare, vocal, guitar, whatevs. Bounce that down into a wave that you can reverse in an audio editor. Logic has the tools to do this already, but I don't know if all DAWs do.

You take the reverse of the original, stick it in a track and soak it in whatever reverb or delay or whatever you want to show up backwards. Bounce it down and let it tail out all the way with the drench on it as wet as you want it to be.

You take THAT bounce, the already reversed and verbed up one, and reverse it again in an audio editor. What you'll have is a wet delay/verb that starts with what used to be the tail and ends with the initial attack. Time align the initial attack with the actual attack of the original audio source and then smash your dick with a ball peen hammer for ever thinking this was gonna be easy in the first place.

Gawd damn, thinking about it without the tools in front of me is making me feel all

Oh, to make the double reversal make sense, think about something that starts with a backwards riff, like that one Morbid Angel tune. You wouldn't want that riff playing backwards AND forwards at the same time, which is what would happen if you just applied verb and tried to reverse only the verbed track.

Still

nightflameauto wrote:I've done it, but it's a HUGE pain in the ass. And trying to sort out my thought process is probably going to be an even bigger pain in the ass than actually doing it.

Start with your source, snare, vocal, guitar, whatevs. Bounce that down into a wave that you can reverse in an audio editor. Logic has the tools to do this already, but I don't know if all DAWs do.

You take the reverse of the original, stick it in a track and soak it in whatever reverb or delay or whatever you want to show up backwards. Bounce it down and let it tail out all the way with the drench on it as wet as you want it to be.

You take THAT bounce, the already reversed and verbed up one, and reverse it again in an audio editor. What you'll have is a wet delay/verb that starts with what used to be the tail and ends with the initial attack. Time align the initial attack with the actual attack of the original audio source and then smash your dick with a ball peen hammer for ever thinking this was gonna be easy in the first place.

Gawd damn, thinking about it without the tools in front of me is making me feel all

Oh, to make the double reversal make sense, think about something that starts with a backwards riff, like that one Morbid Angel tune. You wouldn't want that riff playing backwards AND forwards at the same time, which is what would happen if you just applied verb and tried to reverse only the verbed track.

Still

I do pretty much the same method, well I generally have only used it on guitars and vox before, never really had a use for reversed reverb snare, but I tried it out for this thread and it only took me about 2 minutes. Not sure why it's such a pain for you.

I don't stress over the time aligning very much, I just nudge the reversed verb track a little forward so that its loudest point is about where the attack of the real snare is. You really don't have to line them up absolutely perfectly since the reverb 'gels' the sound anyway, you just have to nudge it forward enough for the reverb to 'flow' into the snare a bit. I was able to get it sounding decent on my first try. Now that I think about it, that's probably just because of the reverb's predelay. If you set it to have no predelay before you reverse it for the second time, you might not have to change the time aligning at all.

Here's an example: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/719 ... bsnare.mp3

And here's an example in a full drum mix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/719 ... erbmix.mp3

Not something I would probably ever find myself using, but I think it sounds passable for the intent and it literally only took me about 2 minutes and only about 5 steps, not sure what the fuss is about.

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