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Apparently it was Maynard's 50th birthday. Anyway, I bought tickets to "A Special Night with Puscifer, A Perfect Circle, and Failure". It was interesting the way they did it. The bands rotated 3 song sets in really smooth transition about 4 times. Naturally Maynard was on stage most of the time since two of his bands were playing. Throughout all sets, the members of each band sat-in in various configurations at different times with the other acts' set. There was like a whole barbeque vibe on stage with friends of the bands in lawn chairs drinking beers and hanging out while the whole show was going on. Despite how annoying that sounds, the stage guests didn't interfere in the slightest bit with the show, and it was a really good concert. Danny Carey played the last two songs of the Puscifer set. Puscifer was really fucking good. Really.

But fuck me. You guys are right. Tool fans are the WORST. Once Danny Carey came on stage... ... epic fanboi(girl) douchey, engage.

thats puscifer's stage thing...the bbq thing....since at least last year.

and yeah, boy do i know.

interesting show!

go on and let it out, describe the doucheyness.

Y0UNGBL00D wrote:go on and let it out, describe the doucheyness.

Yep I'm waiting as well

Sounds like an awesome show, douch-iness aside. I'm jealous.

You guys wouldn't understand.

Here's how I would explain it:

Maynards' shallowest feels are too deep for you guys.

This guy would get it :

I used to really like APC, but it's not as good as I remember it.

I think Tool ruined it for me.

pamukParty wrote:This guy would get it :

Is that like the Time Cube?


I know I know, if you have to ask....

Awesome, sounds like a sweet show. I think that going to metal shows for years has given me a nice callous for being around terrible fans lol.

I've never listened to puscifer, should I rectify that? I like apc and tool.

im not sure you'd enjoy it. some of it is cool, some of it weird, even for maynard. its definitely aligned with the dude's dry sense of humor. Vis for Vagina is a bit more accessible than the new stuff, but not by a whole lot. and none of it is INACCESSIBLE or anything...just....different than tool or heavier APC songs, lot more tongue in cheek with some cool moments in there.

Hmm I'll have to listen to some stuff then. I tend to like weird, but it's gotta be the right type of weird lol

to someone who likes weird types of weird, its a weird type of weird
if that makes sense.

nice. Sounds like I'll have something to do after work

Irritating music for irritating people.

Everyone walks around talking about Maynard and Tool trying to compete as if they have some deeper connection to the music than each other, most likely associated with drug induced "enlightenment" brought on by dosing acid and ecstasy and listening to Aenima 500 times, cue Rosetta Stoned. And it's like, there used to be a punk/metal element to the grunge scene in the 90's that made these crowds a lot more aggressive, but it's like everyone turned 35-40 and started doing yoga, and then shows up to a concert like this trying really to be "deep" and "spiritual", dancing like a fucking swaying sea anemone. It was silly how hard a lot of the crowd was trying to seem like they were having this profound experience the whole time.

Profound experience?

Needs more Dispatch Master.

Mike LX-R wrote:Everyone walks around talking about Maynard and Tool trying to compete as if they have some deeper connection to the music than each other, most likely associated with drug induced "enlightenment" brought on by dosing acid and ecstasy and listening to Aenima 500 times, cue Rosetta Stoned. And it's like, there used to be a punk/metal element to the grunge scene in the 90's that made these crowds a lot more aggressive, but it's like everyone turned 35-40 and started doing yoga, and then shows up to a concert like this trying really to be "deep" and "spiritual", dancing like a fucking swaying sea anemone. It was silly how hard a lot of the crowd was trying to seem like they were having this profound experience the whole time.

hit it on the head. nice.

i wish, for the next tool album, the intensity and heft would be there, but for completely tangible, in your face things for subject matter. eliminate all ties to spiritual shakras and other BS. fuck, get political or at least satirical.

even so, if they dont, if they continue to spiral out (ha) into the deep end of hippy psyche, ill still love every goddamned second of it, just hate the fans for sure.

I'm hoping for more hippy psyche insanity on the next album, I'll just ignore the fans

pabloramon wrote:Profound experience?

Needs more Dispatch Master.

Also this

spawnofthesith wrote:Awesome, sounds like a sweet show. I think that going to metal shows for years has given me a nice callous for being around terrible fans lol.

I've never listened to puscifer, should I rectify that? I like apc and tool.

If you like APC check out Puscifers 'Conditions of my Parole'. It could pass for an APC album in my opinion.

Y0UNGBL00D wrote:

Mike LX-R wrote:Everyone walks around talking about Maynard and Tool trying to compete as if they have some deeper connection to the music than each other, most likely associated with drug induced "enlightenment" brought on by dosing acid and ecstasy and listening to Aenima 500 times, cue Rosetta Stoned. And it's like, there used to be a punk/metal element to the grunge scene in the 90's that made these crowds a lot more aggressive, but it's like everyone turned 35-40 and started doing yoga, and then shows up to a concert like this trying really to be "deep" and "spiritual", dancing like a fucking swaying sea anemone. It was silly how hard a lot of the crowd was trying to seem like they were having this profound experience the whole time.

hit it on the head. nice.

i wish, for the next tool album, the intensity and heft would be there, but for completely tangible, in your face things for subject matter. eliminate all ties to spiritual shakras and other BS. fuck, get political or at least satirical.

even so, if they dont, if they continue to spiral out (ha) into the deep end of hippy psyche, ill still love every goddamned second of it, just hate the fans for sure.

I'm hoping they go more in a straight up rock direction like their earlier stuff.

Loins of Fire wrote:

spawnofthesith wrote:Awesome, sounds like a sweet show. I think that going to metal shows for years has given me a nice callous for being around terrible fans lol.

I've never listened to puscifer, should I rectify that? I like apc and tool.

If you like APC check out Puscifers 'Conditions of my Parole'. It could pass for an APC album in my opinion.

I disagree, personally. Especially after seeing both acts one after another in rotation they way they did this show. I actually think Puscifer is a better band all around. Their songs were my favorites of the night, by far.

Also, Failure was boring as fuck. I can see why at the time they developed a bit of a following. Their music was progressive and probably influenced a lot of other acts that followed. But in general they annoyed me.