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Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:31 am
by JiveTurkey
This morning on the ride to school, my son asks "Dad, do you like Weezer?"
To which I proceeded to pull up some Pinkerton on the youtube and cranked it through the car stereo
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I__o6BmwtDA[/video]
Hadn't listened to it in years. Awesome songwriting and fuzzy guitars

Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:36 am
by sleewell
love that entire album
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:49 am
by JiveTurkey
The first two Weezer albums are awesome. My Name is Jonas is one of the greatest opening songs ever imo. I need to dig in and listen to stuff after the Green album and see if I dig it. Hash Pipe kind of turned me off but I did enjoy some other stuff on that cd.
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:03 pm
by ovid9
JiveTurkey wrote:The first two Weezer albums are awesome. My Name is Jonas is one of the greatest opening songs ever imo. I need to dig in and listen to stuff after the Green album and see if I dig it. Hash Pipe kind of turned me off but I did enjoy some other stuff on that cd.
Yes! That little acoustic bit and then it just cranks into some awesome rock and roll.
The first two are my favorite by far but I've enjoyed some of their newer stuff. Rivers totally figured out the formula, but hey, he worked hard figuring it out and some of its lots of fun.
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:08 pm
by JiveTurkey
ovid9 wrote:JiveTurkey wrote:The first two Weezer albums are awesome. My Name is Jonas is one of the greatest opening songs ever imo. I need to dig in and listen to stuff after the Green album and see if I dig it. Hash Pipe kind of turned me off but I did enjoy some other stuff on that cd.
Yes! That little acoustic bit and then it just cranks into some awesome rock and roll.
The first two are my favorite by far but I've enjoyed some of their newer stuff. Rivers totally figured out the formula, but hey, he worked hard figuring it out and some of its lots of fun.
I pulled up Green as I worked today and besides the blandness of Hash Pipe, it is a nice, concise piece of great pop-rock songwriting. Formula is definitely the key for him. Every song on that album has the solo just echo the verse vocal melody

Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:12 pm
by sleewell
the blue album for me was junior and senior year of high school. I had that bitch on a tape and would listen to it when I mowed the lawn.
pinkerton for me was summer of freshman year at college. just about every night we had a house party and just about every night at some point between 1-4 that album was played. the entire album, as loud as the stereo went.
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:19 pm
by Telephant
JiveTurkey wrote:ovid9 wrote:JiveTurkey wrote:The first two Weezer albums are awesome. My Name is Jonas is one of the greatest opening songs ever imo. I need to dig in and listen to stuff after the Green album and see if I dig it. Hash Pipe kind of turned me off but I did enjoy some other stuff on that cd.
Yes! That little acoustic bit and then it just cranks into some awesome rock and roll.
The first two are my favorite by far but I've enjoyed some of their newer stuff. Rivers totally figured out the formula, but hey, he worked hard figuring it out and some of its lots of fun.
I pulled up Green as I worked today and besides the blandness of Hash Pipe, it is a nice, concise piece of great pop-rock songwriting. Formula is definitely the key for him. Every song on that album has the solo just echo the verse vocal melody

Besides Hash Pipe the rest of that album is indeed pretty fucking good. As are the guitar tones on it. I love the blue album but for some reason Pinkerton never really grabbed me.

Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:49 pm
by JiveTurkey
Telephant wrote:JiveTurkey wrote:ovid9 wrote:JiveTurkey wrote:The first two Weezer albums are awesome. My Name is Jonas is one of the greatest opening songs ever imo. I need to dig in and listen to stuff after the Green album and see if I dig it. Hash Pipe kind of turned me off but I did enjoy some other stuff on that cd.
Yes! That little acoustic bit and then it just cranks into some awesome rock and roll.
The first two are my favorite by far but I've enjoyed some of their newer stuff. Rivers totally figured out the formula, but hey, he worked hard figuring it out and some of its lots of fun.
I pulled up Green as I worked today and besides the blandness of Hash Pipe, it is a nice, concise piece of great pop-rock songwriting. Formula is definitely the key for him. Every song on that album has the solo just echo the verse vocal melody

Besides Hash Pipe the rest of that album is indeed pretty fucking good. As are the guitar tones on it. I love the blue album but for some reason Pinkerton never really grabbed me.

Pinkerton is more than a little
too nerdy, awkward and thoughtful; even by Weezer standards

That is precisely why I dig it. There are some straightforward rockers but there are also a lot of "falsetto vocal, gaze at the floor slow jams" or wtf-ever that make it more of a full album listen as opposed to a song-by-song type of situation. Here is one of the singles that is a little more straightforward in it's approach:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I__o6BmwtDA#t=15m36s[/video]
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:53 pm
by Telephant
I saw Weezer with Tenacious D and Jimmy Eat World when I was a junior or senior in Highschool. It was a very good show. I also once saw Weezer before that at Auditorium Shores (outside venue here in Austin) and they came out and played this jammy version of Only In Dreams (last track on the Blue album IIRC) and Rivers proceeded to rip it up on a Strat! That dude can straight up play when he wants too!
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:56 pm
by JiveTurkey
Telephant wrote:I saw Weezer with Tenacious D and Jimmy Eat World when I was a junior or senior in Highschool. It was a very good show. I also once saw Weezer before that at Auditorium Shores (outside venue here in Austin) and they came out and played this jammy version of Only In Dreams (last track on the Blue album IIRC) and Rivers proceeded to rip it up on a Strat! That dude can straight up play when he wants too!
He was a metalhead back in the day. He took lessons from the guitarist in Fates Warning (if you are familiar with your semi-obscure 80's progressive metal

) He plays some very tasty to the point solos that are tonally really perfect for their music. One of the solos on the Blue album is, in River's words, a ripoff of the solo from Rock You Like a Hurricane lol
On the Tenacious D note, my wife and I saw them in concert in the early 2000's and they were amazing. The between song videos were hilarious

Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:58 pm
by Telephant
JiveTurkey wrote:Telephant wrote:I saw Weezer with Tenacious D and Jimmy Eat World when I was a junior or senior in Highschool. It was a very good show. I also once saw Weezer before that at Auditorium Shores (outside venue here in Austin) and they came out and played this jammy version of Only In Dreams (last track on the Blue album IIRC) and Rivers proceeded to rip it up on a Strat! That dude can straight up play when he wants too!
He was a metalhead back in the day. He took lessons from the guitarist in Fates Warning (if you are familiar with your semi-obscure 80's progressive metal

) He plays some very tasty to the point solos that are tonally really perfect for their music. One of the solos on the Blue album is, in River's words, a ripoff of the solo from Rock You Like a Hurricane lol
On the Tenacious D note, my wife and I saw them in concert in the early 2000's and they were amazing. The between song videos were hilarious

Course I know who Fates Warning is. Gat damn homie give me a little credit.

Have you seen those old pictures of him in spandex and big hair? Hilarious!
Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:04 pm
by JiveTurkey
Telephant wrote:JiveTurkey wrote:Telephant wrote:I saw Weezer with Tenacious D and Jimmy Eat World when I was a junior or senior in Highschool. It was a very good show. I also once saw Weezer before that at Auditorium Shores (outside venue here in Austin) and they came out and played this jammy version of Only In Dreams (last track on the Blue album IIRC) and Rivers proceeded to rip it up on a Strat! That dude can straight up play when he wants too!
He was a metalhead back in the day. He took lessons from the guitarist in Fates Warning (if you are familiar with your semi-obscure 80's progressive metal

) He plays some very tasty to the point solos that are tonally really perfect for their music. One of the solos on the Blue album is, in River's words, a ripoff of the solo from Rock You Like a Hurricane lol
On the Tenacious D note, my wife and I saw them in concert in the early 2000's and they were amazing. The between song videos were hilarious

Course I know who Fates Warning is. Gat damn homie give me a little credit.

Have you seen those old pictures of him in spandex and big hair? Hilarious!
You tastes seem to gravitate to more of the classic rock/bluesy stuff so I (unfairly) think of you in those terms
The spandex pics are hilarious. I can't remember the name of his old metal band (Google Magic edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant_Garde_(band) )
I always liked the fact that, contrary to everyone else that blew up during the grunge/alt-rock era; he owned up to his metal influences and ambition as a player; even in the context of Weezer. Weezer actually has a ruh-tarded archive of photos/info etc. and their fanbase is very dedicated, to say the very least. I was watching footage from the Weezer cruise they did where they played Blue in it's entirety

Re: Forgot how much I dug Pinkerton
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:19 pm
by Telephant
JiveTurkey wrote:You tastes seem to gravitate to more of the classic rock/bluesy stuff so I (unfairly) think of you in those terms
No you're right and I'd say that is a fair assumption. Especially with how much shit I've been talking.
I love that the name of his hair band was Avant Garde. Cause you know, they were so different from the norm...
edit: And just found this on the wiki page:
They decided on the name Avant Garde as, according to Cuomo, "[they] were anything but."

You know I've heard conflicting reports about Rivers. Some say he's a dick others say he's a really ncie guy. I want to say I remember reading about him abstaining from sex for multiple years on end.
