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I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

Ostinato Rubato wrote:I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

Oh those pesky once in a century situations that seems to be cropping up every 10-20 years.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Texas-grid-again-faces-scrutiny-over-cold-15955392.php

We're not on the way out, not at least where I live in Austin.
My water is no longer drinkable nor is there pressure. Nothing is thawing and we just got more snow.

I can't run any appliances and every store I've been to is pretty much out of everything.
I'm just happy I've been able to provide a spot to warm up, shower, and charge for friends who haven't been as fortunate.
Also happy we stocked up on supplies and that we live in a house (with power and gas), the pictures and stories I'm hearing from apartment complexes and what not have been rough.

it's horrific , what is one supposed to do ??? build a neighborhood bonfire ? aside from all the dumbass jokes from Rubato , my heart goes out to you and all those folks . I'm from the East coast so I've seen it pretty bad but we always had power more or less .

Ostinato Rubato wrote:I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

I work in utilities. There is no excuse for letting civil society collapse like this. Ever. People were negligent. They need to be held to account. This is happening because folks didn't bother winterizing their systems. Full stop. The storm is absolutely no excuse for ignoring seasonal maintinence. It is not a act of god or any bullshit like that.

By the way, Jerry Jones is making a killing on is natural gas company because of this situation. So I am sure we can all sleep better knowing that.

Ostinato Rubato wrote:I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

There was another once in a century storm 10 years ago and the feds recommended TX winterize their power grid.

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/win ... 11-report/

so you're right, there is no one at fault and no one could have seen this coming.

K-Bizzle wrote:

Ostinato Rubato wrote:I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

Oh those pesky once in a century situations that seems to be cropping up every 10-20 years.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Texas-grid-again-faces-scrutiny-over-cold-15955392.php

We're not on the way out, not at least where I live in Austin.
My water is no longer drinkable nor is there pressure. Nothing is thawing and we just got more snow.

I can't run any appliances and every store I've been to is pretty much out of everything.
I'm just happy I've been able to provide a spot to warm up, shower, and charge for friends who haven't been as fortunate.
Also happy we stocked up on supplies and that we live in a house (with power and gas), the pictures and stories I'm hearing from apartment complexes and what not have been rough.

I guess I could have read KB's reply instead of injecting more snark

Kyle, why isn't the water drinkable?

_ej_ wrote:

K-Bizzle wrote:

Ostinato Rubato wrote:I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

Oh those pesky once in a century situations that seems to be cropping up every 10-20 years.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Texas-grid-again-faces-scrutiny-over-cold-15955392.php

We're not on the way out, not at least where I live in Austin.
My water is no longer drinkable nor is there pressure. Nothing is thawing and we just got more snow.

I can't run any appliances and every store I've been to is pretty much out of everything.
I'm just happy I've been able to provide a spot to warm up, shower, and charge for friends who haven't been as fortunate.
Also happy we stocked up on supplies and that we live in a house (with power and gas), the pictures and stories I'm hearing from apartment complexes and what not have been rough.

I guess I could have read KB's reply instead of injecting more snark

Kyle, why isn't the water drinkable?

Water systems across the state have lost pressure. Which means...

A) You can't get water out of the taps.

B) The systems are now contaminated from back-siphonige of groundwater.


Every water system leaks. You keep positive pressure in the pipes to make sure the leaks push out. You never want groundwater creeping in.

TurboPablo wrote:Water systems across the state have lost pressure. Which means...

A) You can't get water out of the taps.

B) The systems are now contaminated from back-siphonige of groundwater.


Every water system leaks. You keep positive pressure in the pipes to make sure the leaks push out. You never want groundwater creeping in.

Thanks man, that makes a lot of sense. Its really brutal to see stuff like this, where just a little more prep could have spared a lot of pain.

Hopefully things clear up very soon.

Can't wait till Joe Rogan moves out again

_ej_ wrote:

TurboPablo wrote:Water systems across the state have lost pressure. Which means...

A) You can't get water out of the taps.

B) The systems are now contaminated from back-siphonige of groundwater.


Every water system leaks. You keep positive pressure in the pipes to make sure the leaks push out. You never want groundwater creeping in.

Thanks man, that makes a lot of sense. Its really brutal to see stuff like this, where just a little more prep could have spared a lot of pain.

Hopefully things clear up very soon.

Powerloss at the treatment facility, here is the info I have.
https://www.austintexas.gov/page/boil-water-notice-and-faqs

Considering myself fortunate to be able to boil it.

GuitarBilly wrote:Can't wait till Joe Rogans moves out again

Hopefully he stops telling everyone how great it is here and that they should move here.

- Sincerely guy who moved here right around the same time as Rogan.

_ej_ wrote:

Ostinato Rubato wrote:I get the desire to bash TX policy in many ways, but when this was a once in a century storm you can't fault the exposure of deficiencies in the system.

I personally appreciate the ruggedness of the average Texan, even if I'm not favorable to choices their policy makers make in situations like these. If there's one state that has an undeniable identity rooted in independence it's Texas.

Glad you guys are on the way out of this situation Texas bros.

There was another once in a century storm 10 years ago and the feds recommended TX winterize their power grid.

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/win ... 11-report/

so you're right, there is no one at fault and no one could have seen this coming.

Well then...

My biggest concern is for all of those people who will have to wait longer for their Tesla's.

_ej_ wrote:

TurboPablo wrote:Water systems across the state have lost pressure. Which means...

A) You can't get water out of the taps.

B) The systems are now contaminated from back-siphonige of groundwater.


Every water system leaks. You keep positive pressure in the pipes to make sure the leaks push out. You never want groundwater creeping in.

Thanks man, that makes a lot of sense. Its really brutal to see stuff like this, where just a little more prep could have spared a lot of pain.

Hopefully things clear up very soon.

The real tragedy is that hospitals can't function. For example, people that need dialysis are shit out of luck.

This is a completely inhumane situation that could have easily been avoided.

Hospitals should be on their own backup power .

fretless wrote:Hospitals should be on their own backup power .

They have generators. But that does nothing for water pressure.

Drove my 90 year old, virtual mother-in-law, to get her first, covid jab today.
Good thing I brought a snow shovel with me! We were able to park near the rear entrance but, I had to shovel a path from the car to the entrance.

Thanks for the clarification on the power grid. Hopefully this will usher in some changes to mitigate this happening again.

And yep, these once in a century polar vortex collapse extreme cold weather events are becoming much more frequent than that. Last one we had in the UK was 10/11 years ago where we got a week plus of -13°C and our infrastructure just isn't built for that. I was going to bed in a base layer, t-shirt, jumper and hoodie We didn't get hit so bad this time but a lot of Europe did.

It's not even cold in Texas.

Are you kidding me. It’s pretty dang cool man. It’s almost jacket weather at night.

DBN is tougher than the whole state of Texas.

It's not just heat... just heard that, 13 million Texans are without water!
The news showed a 1/2 mile queue of people waiting for their turn at a water spigot in a town park.... crazy!

Miserable week. First day it snowed we got 4-5 inches or so. I think. Then we started dealing with intermittent power, until it finally shut off for over 2 days. Thankfully we had running water the entire time. Snowed again today but not as much as the first time. Power is finally back. Praying to God it does not shut off again.

boris the blade wrote:Miserable week. First day it snowed we got 4-5 inches or so. I think. Then we started dealing with intermittent power, until it finally shut off for over 2 days. Thankfully we had running water the entire time. Snowed again today but not as much as the first time. Power is finally back. Praying to God it does not shut off again.

Yeah, that is tough. I saw that 13 million people didn't have water today. So you were definitely fortunate. Seems that power is coming back finally. But those water systems will take some time to sort out. The whole situation sucks.