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Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:49 am
by Demiurge
RSBro wrote:
Schweezly wrote:
They say he's the first "active" player to come out. Guess what? If no one signs him this summer...he isn't active. And then this is no different than any other retired athlete coming out.

But regardless, I'm glad were getting to a point where people can comfortably come out and be who they are.


why? so you can get special treatment because you like going balls-deep on a BBC and you're a shit player at your sport? stupid.



JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

:clap:

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:54 am
by Schweezly
RSBro wrote:
Schweezly wrote:
They say he's the first "active" player to come out. Guess what? If no one signs him this summer...he isn't active. And then this is no different than any other retired athlete coming out.

But regardless, I'm glad were getting to a point where people can comfortably come out and be who they are.


why? so you can get special treatment because you like going balls-deep on a BBC and you're a shit player at your sport? stupid.


Because people shouldn't have to hide who they are. It's the media that blows shit like up.

But yea, I see your point. This shouldn't even be something that is discussed. It's just someone living the life they were given.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:57 am
by RSBro
Schweezly wrote:
RSBro wrote:ESPN can't fire black folk because it's racist. Otherwise Stephen A. Retard would have been canned ages ago. But Broussard is only half, so who knows. It's sad how they're trying to paint him as some sort of gay basher though, but totally unsurprising.


Steven A is the definition of annoying. How does that guy still have a job? And when will he stop using te word trepidation in every sentence?

Broussard has always been a super nice dude. I hate that they are pushing it the other way.


Chuck Nutz wrote:I think he needs to out actual active players, Canseco style.


:lol:

Canseco'd


Stephen A. has used the n word on live TV multiple times and is basically Sharpton Lite when it come to racial instigation. It's pretty pathetic, yeah.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:58 am
by Dave
NBA log jammin'

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:00 am
by K-Bizzle
RSBro's responses to these types of things are always gold. :lol:

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:01 am
by RSBro
Schweezly wrote:
Because people shouldn't have to hide who they are. It's the media that blows shit like up.

But yea, I see your point. This shouldn't even be something that is discussed. It's just someone living the life they were given.


How was he "hiding" it before? Do you know him personally? Because I don't think you do. NBA dudes are the most promiscuous of any pro sport, far and away. I don't see a got damm Stephy Stephonofolous or wtf-ever his retard name is interview special when some dude pounds vag 10x a night on a road trip.
His career is (probably) over, he was and is a C/D-rate player and hey it's one last thing to stay in the limelight and extra week. If you can't see this for what it is I don't honestly know how to help you.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:05 am
by Schweezly
RSBro wrote:
Schweezly wrote:
Because people shouldn't have to hide who they are. It's the media that blows shit like up.

But yea, I see your point. This shouldn't even be something that is discussed. It's just someone living the life they were given.


How was he "hiding" it before? Do you know him personally? Because I don't think you do. NBA dudes are the most promiscuous of any pro sport, far and away. I don't see a got damm Stephy Stephonofolous or wtf-ever his retard name is interview special when some dude pounds vag 10x a night on a road trip.
His career is (probably) over, he was and is a C/D-rate player and hey it's one last thing to stay in the limelight and extra week. If you can't see this for what it is I don't honestly know how to help you.



Honestly dude, I don't give a shit. At all. This guy can fuck anyone he wants, now or in the past. I've never cared what people choose to do, but there are a lot of judgemental cunts in our country...and that's all I'm saying.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:13 am
by GuitarBilly
alright then.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:35 am
by zach
guys ragin' on the south are actually pretty right. you can't throw a rock into a crowd without hitting a bigot of some sort, independent of color. the thing about bigotry in the south is that it's a finely ingrained part of everyday life...it's subtle and delicate, like a fine wine if you will.

sure, there are morons that get rageboners and upset the balance, but they're rare.

having spent most of my youth in california, my first experience with racial bigotry was when i came to georgia...i was a VICTIM of it. there's some kind of strangely perpetuated myth that racism is ONLY white people hating on black people...at least, that's what i perceive to be the case. the reality is much different.

personally, i don't give a shit about who people have sex with or what color they are. i'm in the minority on that here, though. feckin' bible belt FTMFGDL.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:48 am
by Telephant
Yes because bigotry only exists in the south. You people, and fuck do I really mean YOU PEOPLE, are fucking morons.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:55 pm
by Devin
Chuck Nutz wrote:NBA log jammin'


rofl

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:57 pm
by zach
Telephant wrote:Yes because bigotry only exists in the south. You people, and fuck do I really mean YOU PEOPLE, are fucking morons.


yes, it exists elsewhere.

people in the south are just better at it :cop:

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:05 pm
by phrophus
zach wrote:guys ragin' on the south are actually pretty right. you can't throw a rock into a crowd without hitting a bigot of some sort, independent of color. the thing about bigotry in the south is that it's a finely ingrained part of everyday life...it's subtle and delicate, like a fine wine if you will.

sure, there are morons that get rageboners and upset the balance, but they're rare.

having spent most of my youth in california, my first experience with racial bigotry was when i came to georgia...i was a VICTIM of it. there's some kind of strangely perpetuated myth that racism is ONLY white people hating on black people...at least, that's what i perceive to be the case. the reality is much different.

personally, i don't give a shit about who people have sex with or what color they are. i'm in the minority on that here, though. feckin' bible belt FTMFGDL.


Lemme guess, got asked about your tattoos at the grocery store a lot, huh?

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:11 pm
by zach
lulz.

only white kid on the school bus.

there were some days that i feared for my life.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:26 pm
by zach
just for relevance, the county where this "first integrated prom" is going down is two counties away from where i went to high school 20+ years ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/30/living/wi ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:23 pm
by Dickarms
Demiurge wrote:lolololololol

Location: Austin TX

was waiting for texas to chime in. the sarcasm is thick, does not penetrate the southern drawl I guess.


lol white guy hitting black woman as avatar



lololol as dumb as shit as you are, sir troll, its oprah. i think we can ALL agree oprah needs a good punch in the face. you're simply jealous i got a pic of me doing it.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:29 pm
by Dickarms
there are some fucked things about this though, on a serious note

a) not the first homosexual sports player to come out. yeah, fuck tennis, but still.
b) possible publicity stunt, as some are saying he wasn't going to be picked up next season
c) the broussard thing: really fucking stupid, and indicative of a prevalent christian bullshit veil that cloaks our nation, but not gay bashing. way dumber than gay bashing, imo.

bottom line: taking it in the bottom should not be fucking news, and the news surrounding it is fucking dumb. glad this will be gone before friday.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:18 pm
by ***1776***
I think this took some guts and bravery but i have a question.. Who REALLY cares? I mean that in a respectfull manner, but whats with this and the attention the media gives this?


If the guy can play 'ball' for my team (no matter the sport) and help my team win or get to the promise land/championship WTF do i care what they do in the bedroom? SERIOUSLY what do i care what he does behind close doors?


I dont get the attention with this. ---- Some guys like blondes, some like brunettes, chains and whips, bondage, hang from the ceiling, like doggy style, etc, etc. I dont care about what they do in the bedroom in their private time - who really fucking cares? More power to them



:idk:

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:44 pm
by rear naked
Meh...here is what I have to say:


- The media is in business for ratings. They don't get ratings by habitually covering topics/stories that a lot of their viewers don't find interesting, regardless of whether you, in particular, find it interesting. Their survival is based upon continually covering things that will keep viewers tuned in, and given that they have boatloads of data and experience that tell them what the viewers will keep watching, I figure they know better than me (and you) what to cover. The majority of the blame that gets put on "the media" for what they cover deserves to be put on the viewing public.

-Should this be news in a perfect world? No. Too fucking bad we are not living in a perfect world where nobody cares about sexual orientation, regardless of whether you (or your friends, family, region) do or not. Live in an enlightened area? Good for you. I don't.

-Comeing out of the closet is a huge fucking deal for a lot of gays...probably the majority. The reason WHY it is a big deal is because a lot of people care. And that is why it is "news." My aunt came out a few ago. My grandparents, who are actually amazing people, didn't take it too well for religious reasons. My wonderful aunt almost killed herself over it. Her parents finally came around. When public figures come out it helps to break the taboo, and helps construct an evironment where people can come out and live their life without facing something like that. Im disappointed to see the "edgy" negative comments about this.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:54 pm
by Demiurge
Y0UNGBL00D wrote:
Demiurge wrote:lolololololol

Location: Austin TX

was waiting for texas to chime in. the sarcasm is thick, does not penetrate the southern drawl I guess.


lol white guy hitting black woman as avatar



lololol as dumb as shit as you are, sir troll, its oprah. i think we can ALL agree oprah needs a good punch in the face. you're simply jealous i got a pic of me doing it.


Yeah I saw the OPRAH on the wall behind it and wasn't sure what that was. I put it into google translator for every single language but it always came out the same. Thanks for clarifying

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:23 pm
by 100 watt
Dude's gay. Big deal.

for those who paint The South with such a wide brush... Lol.

Anyone making the same kind of stereotypical generalizations about other places (the middle east, the ghetto, etc) gets attacked by the p.c. Police.

Not that I really give a shit..Ive been hearing that shit my whole life. I just think it's funny.

I know Yankee mother fuckers, and cats from out west, and other regions who are way more racist & intolerant of others, than most people I've known from here, my whole goddamn life.


back to dude being gay... So what. If we're all equal..why does it matter?

I hate the media.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:15 pm
by ovid9
I think its hilarious, the folks who think this is all 100% media related. Of COURSE the media is going to blow it up 1000000%. Its what they do. Its why Tim Tebow is STILL being talked about even though his football career is probably over. They make money by selling ads by sensationalizing stories.

However...

The issue, and why its a big deal, is that it is still very difficult to be homosexual in many walks of life, male dominated sports especially, to be open about who they are. Contrary to what many of you seem to think open is, for most, it doesn't being a flamboyant stereotype. It means, not having to hide a part of yourself for fear of your job. It means, not having to awkwardly dodge questions about "Why don't you have a GF? When are you getting married?" It means not dealing with denying who you are in an attempt to be "normal."

I personally know a couple people who are closeted completely out of fear of never getting promoted at their job again. And since they both work at small places, with lots of people wanting to rise up, they aren't willing to risk it and it just kills them. Honestly, I think they might be happier if they just came out, but its not right they have to worry about that and they do.

This is still a real issue, and attempting to blame people's attitudes towards homosexuals on media conflation is simply not the full picture either. If you're naive enough to believe being gay isn't difficult in many parts of the country, well, you're very naive.

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:46 pm
by rear naked
Needless to say, I agree Ovid

Re: Jason Collins comes out

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:17 am
by benjamin801
ovid9 wrote:I think its hilarious, the folks who think this is all 100% media related. Of COURSE the media is going to blow it up 1000000%. Its what they do. Its why Tim Tebow is STILL being talked about even though his football career is probably over. They make money by selling ads by sensationalizing stories.

However...

The issue, and why its a big deal, is that it is still very difficult to be homosexual in many walks of life, male dominated sports especially, to be open about who they are. Contrary to what many of you seem to think open is, for most, it doesn't being a flamboyant stereotype. It means, not having to hide a part of yourself for fear of your job. It means, not having to awkwardly dodge questions about "Why don't you have a GF? When are you getting married?" It means not dealing with denying who you are in an attempt to be "normal."

I personally know a couple people who are closeted completely out of fear of never getting promoted at their job again. And since they both work at small places, with lots of people wanting to rise up, they aren't willing to risk it and it just kills them. Honestly, I think they might be happier if they just came out, but its not right they have to worry about that and they do.

This is still a real issue, and attempting to blame people's attitudes towards homosexuals on media conflation is simply not the full picture either. If you're naive enough to believe being gay isn't difficult in many parts of the country, well, you're very naive.



This is well stated. A lot of people I know at work and so forth have echoed the sentiment in this thread, you know, the "Why does he have to make such a big deal out of it? You don't see me coming out as straight, or bragging that I'm straight, do you? Just go be gay and shut up about it."

This from people with pictures of their wives and kids on their desks, who have never had to think twice about the consequences of putting them there. :facepalm: