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Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:59 am
by screamingdaisy
My 60s LP had a more carved carve top than a modern LP, so the tailpiece floated higher than what I'd see these days. I'd imagine the carves were pretty inconsistent back in the day, and the stoptail/TOM seems designed to accommodate for that.

Personally, I could never tell any difference between having the TP floated at the correct angle or slammed with a top wrap.

Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:43 pm
by iff
linthat22 wrote:
TurboPablo wrote:If you top wrap, check out the Joe B. trick. Cut the ball end off of your old strings and use it as a spacer for the new ones. Run the new strings through the ball end and then the stoptail. It pulls the new ball end back enough so you are wrapping only the string around instead of the wrap too.

I have no idea if it was his idea originally, but that is how I discovered it.


For some reason, I can't picture this in my head.


It's using the ball end of the old string like a washer to push the ball end of the new string away from the tailpiece. This lets the string wrap the tailpiece more closely because it doesn't start bending properly until the wrapped part ends and the wrapped part is pushed further back into the tailpiece.

Exaggerated diagram:
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New string: black, wrapped part is thicker
Old string ball end: red
Tailpiece: blue

Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:33 pm
by TurboPablo
iff wrote:
linthat22 wrote:
TurboPablo wrote:If you top wrap, check out the Joe B. trick. Cut the ball end off of your old strings and use it as a spacer for the new ones. Run the new strings through the ball end and then the stoptail. It pulls the new ball end back enough so you are wrapping only the string around instead of the wrap too.

I have no idea if it was his idea originally, but that is how I discovered it.


For some reason, I can't picture this in my head.


It's using the ball end of the old string like a washer to push the ball end of the new string away from the tailpiece. This lets the string wrap the tailpiece more closely because it doesn't start bending properly until the wrapped part ends and the wrapped part is pushed further back into the tailpiece.

Exaggerated diagram:
Image

New string: black, wrapped part is thicker
Old string ball end: red
Tailpiece: blue


Exactly. Thanks.

Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:38 pm
by Statutory Gape
An even better replacement for TOM bridges...


Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:34 pm
by Holy-diver
Statutory Gape wrote:An even better replacement for TOM bridges...


Dude this is pretty cool

Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:12 am
by Statutory Gape
Holy-diver wrote:
Statutory Gape wrote:An even better replacement for TOM bridges...


Dude this is pretty cool



I'd hope that LP guys would jump at a $350+ bridge upgrade. :cool:

https://sophiatremolos.com/products/sop ... 4-hardtail

Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:35 am
by GuitarBilly
This is indeed a cool bridge. I wouldn't put it on a LP because I like the traditional look and frankly a standard TOM works just fine for me.

But for modern guitars with a TOM, yeah that looks like a great replacement. I'd get one for my Star if the price wasn't so high. It looks like a really well designed bridge though.

Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:19 am
by Statutory Gape
Here it is on a silverburst...

They have them in black, probably should have used it.

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Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:33 am
by GuitarBilly
Statutory Gape wrote:Here it is on a silverburst...

They have them in black, probably should have used it.

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Yeah.. it's a No. :lol:


I like my LPs to look like LPs.


But I wouldn't mind one for this guitar:

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Re: When wrong is right.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:42 pm
by Statutory Gape
GuitarBilly wrote:
Statutory Gape wrote:Here it is on a silverburst...

They have them in black, probably should have used it.

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Yeah.. it's a No. :lol:


I like my LPs to look like LPs.


But I wouldn't mind one for this guitar:

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Certainly looks better than the FRX.

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