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Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:59 pm
by _actual time_
facefirst wrote:So I have a 2 HB guitar with 1 volume and no tone controls and a 5 way.
It's currently wired
1 - Bridge
2 - Bridge split
3 - Bridge +Neck
4 - Neck split
5 - Neck
...
Here's how it is currently wired
I'm wondering if there may be mistakes in this diagram? Like, I can't understand why the ground (Black) wire from the bridge pickup would be connected to the switch hot output (Blue).
The scheme they're using is unusual, with the neck pickup hot wire always connected to the output. Having a hot wire that's always connected can sometimes cause background noise.
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:28 pm
by facefirst
Hmm. Something isn't right.
Position 1 - Bridge HB
Position 2 - Bridge split
Position 3 - Both pickups
Position 4 - Neck HB
Position 5 - Neck HB
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:42 pm
by facefirst
facefirst wrote:Hmm. Something isn't right.
Position 1 - Bridge HB
Position 2 - Bridge split
Position 3 - Both pickups
Position 4 - Neck HB
Position 5 - Neck HB
False alarm. There was a wire connecting pole 3 and 4 that I omitted from my diagram. I'm now working 100% Thanks!!!
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:49 pm
by GuitarBilly
Glad to know it worked out
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:42 pm
by facefirst
There’s some super solid dudes on this site. Thanks to yins that helped out.
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:02 pm
by facefirst
BroSlinger wrote:Preface: I consider myself of the relatively decent side of normal intelligence.
I can't wrap my mind around switch wiring logic to save myself. Sometimes, I wish everything used a 3 way toggle.
I can sort of understand the Gotoh blade switches, but as soon as stuff is off kilter like a Fender 3/4/5 way, I start getting confused. The Schaller Super switch is an entirely different ballgame. You might as well call the ambulance. I don't understand the wiring in it.
Same here. I can follow a wiring diagram and can solder fine. No way I could just create a diagram from scratch. I’d literally pay to take a class to learn. YouTube kinda helps but not really.
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:13 pm
by GuitarBilly
Best explanation I can offer is on a Super Switch, the outer lugs are commons, meaning they are always on.
Then you have 5 lugs on each of the 4 poles, they correspond to the positions on the actual switch.
Usually, you use poles 1 and 2 for the pickups hot wires and 3 and 4 for splits, series parallel etc.
This article from Stewmac probably explains it better:
https://www.stewmac.com/video-and-ideas ... nd-wiring/
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:25 pm
by facefirst
I noticed that when I have the switch in position 1 that if I tap the bridge pickup poles with a scewdriver that they're both on, which is right. But then if I do the same to the neck pickups I can faintly hear it. Same thing but vice versa in position 4. Is that normal?
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:11 am
by facefirst
facefirst wrote:I noticed that when I have the switch in position 1 that if I tap the bridge pickup poles with a scewdriver that they're both on, which is right. But then if I do the same to the neck pickups I can faintly hear it. Same thing but vice versa in position 4. Is that normal?
Bumping this up
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:40 am
by GuitarBilly
I'm not sure tbh. How does the neck pickup sound when you play it? I'd go by the actual sound instead of a tap test.
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:45 am
by facefirst
GuitarBilly wrote:I'm not sure tbh. How does the neck pickup sound when you play it? I'd go by the actual sound instead of a tap test.
Sounds absolutely fine.
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:56 am
by GuitarBilly
Yeah then I think it's normal. I don't know the reason for it, but now that I think about it, some DiMarzios and pretty much all Lace Sensors are like that. Not loud when tapped on but they sound fine when played.
Re: Wiring Help?
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:01 pm
by facefirst
GuitarBilly wrote:Yeah then I think it's normal. I don't know the reason for it, but now that I think about it, some DiMarzios and pretty much all Lace Sensors are like that. Not loud when tapped on but they sound fine when played.
Works for me. Thanks!