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Don't forget the Judgement Night soundtrack

I was born in 72. MTV introduced me to Run and LL. I was already introduced to metal because When I went to work in a kitchen at 18-19ish? and one of the line cooks brought in Ice T's Original Gangster; that's what hooked me on the rap side Dre, Cube and NWA helped cement that as well. Rap/rock (metal) was very appealing to me because it grabbed the aggression and darkness from both genres and made for a powerful, if perhaps dated in retrospect; stew. The individual parts were almost always better than the whole other than a few specific bands, however.

Born in 73 and I remember having friends into metal/rock and other friends into rap. I think I knew one person that liked both and he took no end of crap from both groups for it. It was like two different worlds in the 80s.

By the nineties I started to see that shift, but the eighties had the walls up between rap and rock/metal.

nightflameauto wrote:Born in 73 and I remember having friends into metal/rock and other friends into rap. I think I knew one person that liked both and he took no end of crap from both groups for it. It was like two different worlds in the 80s.

By the nineties I started to see that shift, but the eighties had the walls up between rap and rock/metal.

When I saw that killer Beasties vid with Kerry King (and terrible solo ) I knew it was "ok" to like both

nightflameauto wrote:Born in 73 and I remember having friends into metal/rock and other friends into rap. I think I knew one person that liked both and he took no end of crap from both groups for it. It was like two different worlds in the 80s.

By the nineties I started to see that shift, but the eighties had the walls up between rap and rock/metal.

That was my experience as well. (born in '74)

GuitarBilly wrote:I think your generation was after this though, you said you're 36 so that's born in 84? Aerosmith was '86 and Anthrax '91, so I think it was more on my generation than yours ( I was 12 and 17 respectively). I don't recall any of my metalhead friends getting into rap because of Aerosmith or Anthrax, tbh. And vice versa. I am sure some did but nothing significant. We liked those specific songs but that was pretty much it.

It's true that a lot of kids likes rock and rap later on but think that's more related to MTV pushing both styles so heavily (as well as white rappers like the Beastie Boys and most importantly Eminem opening inroads with white teens) than rap/rock collab songs.

Yeah you're probably right, I had put these crossovers in mid 90s in my head for some reason.

JiveTurkey wrote:

nightflameauto wrote:Born in 73 and I remember having friends into metal/rock and other friends into rap. I think I knew one person that liked both and he took no end of crap from both groups for it. It was like two different worlds in the 80s.

By the nineties I started to see that shift, but the eighties had the walls up between rap and rock/metal.

When I saw that killer Beasties vid with Kerry King (and terrible solo ) I knew it was "ok" to like both

I think everybody liked Beastie Boys. Somehow they flew through both camps. Probably Kerry's fault. I remember riding our bikes through town screaming out "YOU GOTTA FIGHT! FOR YER RIGHT!"

They just got better with time, too

The Beastie Boys were also a very legit rock band when they wanted to. I think they crossed over the 2 camps because they were equally good at both.

GuitarBilly wrote:

nightflameauto wrote:Born in 73 and I remember having friends into metal/rock and other friends into rap. I think I knew one person that liked both and he took no end of crap from both groups for it. It was like two different worlds in the 80s.

By the nineties I started to see that shift, but the eighties had the walls up between rap and rock/metal.

That was my experience as well. (born in '74)

BeastieBoys, Aerosmith with RUN-DMC and Anthrax jamming with Public Enemy broke down those barriers and factions between styles pre 1990. They kicked down the door for......


Limp Bizkit.

GuitarBilly wrote:The Beastie Boys were also a very legit rock band when they wanted to. I think they crossed over the 2 camps because they were equally good at both.

Very much this!!! The In Sounds from Way Out (mostly instrumental BB album) was in HEAVY rotation in my college days

There's no way it'll be as good as Lil Wayne's rock album.

_ej_ wrote:There's no way it'll be as good as Lil Wayne's rock album.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyAAwCu-Lu4[/youtube]

....and as I listen to the song and I legitmately like it; Lil Wayne is ATROCIOUS on every level.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTurfn7vvCk[/youtube]

That is truly terrible

JiveTurkey wrote:That is truly terrible

my friend when I was working at BK was so stoked when Lil Wayne was doing a rock album. he talked to me about it every time we worked together and I actually gave him a few guitar lessons because of it. Luckily you can play all the songs after about a week of playing guitar

Legitimately the mix of that record is baffling. Drums are SO loud.

Limp Bizkit summons Loop. This thread definitely took us places.

She's a vapid skank.

G-Zod wrote:She's a vapid skank.

vap·id
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offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging.

while challenging might be a stretch - I'm sure she could be pretty stimulating.........

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