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Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:41 am
by newholland
this is interesting reading-- i don't need any such thing really, but it's cool to see 'analogous speaker' circuits actually built-- i've only seen 'em as schematics in speaker building discussions!

curious to see how it all works out- as soon as i started reading i was thinking 'how come you guys don't use ferrite core inductors? so much cheaper...' and thats right where it went. :D those things are fantastic, and i built my altec crossovers with 'em. saved a shitton of money for 2.5mH's, and sound great.

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:20 am
by Zozobra
Looking good man. I like the micro ATX case solution haha!

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:18 pm
by newholland
Man- thats a lurvely build! Nice work!

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:36 pm
by Devin
That's super rad!

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:33 pm
by Willy14
Albert Ross wrote:Aiken's reactive load box schematic, inset top left corner is the schematic of my homebrew resistive load/line out box.

Transfers Orly
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So, to quickly hack these two schematics together:

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Basically just replacing the load resistor in the Aiken's schematic with my load box.

Looks right to me. As soon as I sober up, I'll clean up the schematic to look like it wasn't drafted by a tard.

It's so complicated

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:44 pm
by newholland
so what exactly is the chain on the clip?

it does have some sproingy chonk goin on-- was that pre or post tweakery?

also-- albert pan yer guit center mang! :lol:

so-- what're YOU hearing? are you digging the feel of this thing? is it doing what you wanted? spill it!

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:57 pm
by newholland
Albert Ross wrote:
newholland wrote:so what exactly is the chain on the clip?

it does have some sproingy chonk goin on-- was that pre or post tweakery?

also-- albert pan yer guit center mang! :lol:

so-- what're YOU hearing? are you digging the feel of this thing? is it doing what you wanted? spill it!

Dean ML => Homemade 100W Plexi => Aiken's designed reactive load (transformer driven line-out mod) => Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB Interface => Reaper DAW.

As I said, I added a slight reverb IR before rendering.

It *is* panned center (unless I'm drunk awlready) :idk:

:lol:


Oh fuck yeah. :beavis:

This is "where is your God now" toan.

I'm gettin' some fizzies I'm not digging at certain times - ergo the changes I'm making wif the reactive capacitor.

Also not digging the heat from the "dummy load" portion of the circuit, therefore the power resistor upgrade from 150W each to 250W each.


nice!

i wonder if changing resistors is gonna help.. you're still dissipating wattage either way.. so figure it's gonna still get hot, right? mo headroom in parts is better i guess anyhow for safety's sake.. but i ain't no enjunier.

curious to see what happens with the 20 extry uF of caps! is a 10% up in capacitance gonna bring in more bottom? i've never really gotten reactance circuits.. so not sure exactly how that works.

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:13 pm
by newholland
ha! sheeit.. i dunno about it-- i know enough to get me in trouble and definitely not enough to design my way back out :D

well.. best i know from doing passive crossover circuits is that the bigger the cap, the more low end passes. how that all works out in a POWER circuit.. er... um... hm. i'll wait to hear how the results turn out on that one..

but as for the resistors- well-- if y' figger wattage off the amp is is dissipated in watts heat.. if you're cranking that plexi into a load box.. yer probably burning off close to 100w of heat. if you stuck 100 watts of light bulb in a lil box.. it's still gonna get hot- so i dunno if heat sinks make any dif- it's still ending up as hot air inside the box-- mebbe you gotta supasize yer fan. i wonder if anybody's ever made a water cooled unit... :D

i hear ya though.. its confusing as hell not knowing 100% what's going on in the circuit and not having an EE degree :lol:

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:01 am
by ajaxlepinski
My buddy has a Hotplate that he uses with a 20 watt amp. He brought over the hot plate for me to try on my 100 watt Hi-Tone DR103 clone.
He was flipping out about how much hotter the Hotplate was getting with my amp. He was worried that the Hotplate was going to burn out.

My RockCrusher gets really hot with my Hi-Tone, my 100 watt Jubilee and even my 60 watt Sunn Solarus produces a lot of heat.

Pretty sure it's normal to expect a lot of heat with your 100 watt Plexi.

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:59 pm
by RIFF
That sounds GREAT man... So this thing outputs a whole speaker sim situation?

BTW wheres SUCKA FCK? I wanna hear him yap.

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:37 pm
by RIFF
Albert Ross wrote:
RIFF wrote:That sounds GREAT man... So this thing outputs a whole speaker sim situation?

No, a reactive load only looks like a speaker(or a cabinet of multiple speakers) to the amp.

In other words, the amp reacts differently to this type of load than just a purely resistive load (dummy load).

A reactive load pushes energy back into the output section of the amp at certain times, depending on what you're playin', how hard the amp is being pushed, etc.

It sounds like ass if you just take the line out from this and record it in your DAW.

You have to use speaker cabinet IR's and such to make it sound normal again. In the clip here I used NadIR to load a Redwirez Marshall 1960A cabinet and I miked it with an SM57, just off cone but really close miked.

Then, I added some "Sunset Studios reverb room" reverb to the track. Not much, just enough so it wasn't dry as fuck.


Thank you for listening. :thu:

Got it! :thu:

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:45 pm
by Tortuga
Just in case this assface (AR) decides to "." and run, I've captured this full article in an archive. If anyone now or in the future needs this, just PM me :thu:

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:42 pm
by RIFF
I was positive that Sasha woman would show up by now, to gloat over how it was right & you were wrong.
yup... Must be to busy impressing the local fanbase.

Re: Resistive to Reactive Load Box Upgrade

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:48 pm
by Tortuga
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