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I fucking love you guise!

the only one i play these days is the debut album

I cannot stand DLR. When he's singing, its fine. But then he squeals, and moans, and pretty much sounds like a bitch. Fuck that.

I don't like Haggar's voice.

Not a big fan of when synths started being a huge part of their sound.

It sucks I dislike the vocals so much because musically Van Halen has some amazing stuff and I totally get why they are so loved and respected.

ovid9 wrote:I cannot stand DLR. When he's singing, its fine. But then he squeals, and moans, and pretty much sounds like a bitch. Fuck that.

I don't like Haggar's voice.

Not a big fan of when synths started being a huge part of their sound.

It sucks I dislike the vocals so much because musically Van Halen has some amazing stuff and I totally get why they are so loved and respected.

Careful or you might upset your cats.

i like DLR era the most, i would say that fair warning is my favorite album.
im not a super fan, i like them but theres alot of bands i like better.

Not that I think DLR is/was anything truly special (like EVH) - he was perfect for the band, for the songs, and for the times. He managed to stand out on his own against an extremely talented rhythm section and a lead player that was setting the world on fire, without sucking the life out of the band (ahem...Axl). I think the split after 1984 was healthy for the band (not so much for DLR), and left then some good years and passable albums with a more competent singer, but wasn't creating material that caused a revolution. As I said before, you really have to understand the context of the times to truly appreciate how big a deal VH was in the late 70s / early 80s.

Think of the music scene just before punk, or before Sabbath, or Metallica - bands that were very unique and at just the right time and place to make a huge impact on the way things were.

Yarbicus wrote:Careful or you might upset your cats.

GRIMESPACE wrote:Not that I think DLR is/was anything truly special (like EVH) - he was perfect for the band, for the songs, and for the times. He managed to stand out on his own against an extremely talented rhythm section and a lead player that was setting the world on fire, without sucking the life out of the band (ahem...Axl). I think the split after 1984 was healthy for the band (not so much for DLR), and left then some good years and passable albums with a more competent singer, but wasn't creating material that caused a revolution. As I said before, you really have to understand the context of the times to truly appreciate how big a deal VH was in the late 70s / early 80s.

Think of the music scene just before punk, or before Sabbath, or Metallica - bands that were very unique and at just the right time and place to make a huge impact on the way things were.

If DLR could have reigned in the little girl squeals I'd be fine with him. When he was singing it was totally fine and the videos I've seen, he's an AMAZING frontman. His "flourishes" just make me grit my teeth and ruin otherwise wonderful songs, for me. I totally understand the hype and the millions of fans I just wish the producer and EVH could have taken DLR to a closest and explained to him, with violence if necessary, that people want to hear him SING, not squeal. or gasp, or whatever the fuck he's doing in too many songs.

I got Fair Warning a few months ago, and it is fucking amazing. The tone is so heavy and thick.

I don't know why I never got this album sooner.

I do like Hagar though.

diablogato22 wrote:I got Fair Warning a few months ago, and it is fucking amazing. The tone is so heavy and thick.

I don't know why I never got this album sooner.

I do like Hagar though.

As I understand it, Eddie was in a pretty 'dark' funk during that time, and the album reflects it. Love the vibe of the whole thing. Unchained and Mean Streets are absolutely killer.

I like the guitar playing... and that's it!!

I do own some Van halen but DLR sounds like a girl to me. I always preferred dirty pub rock like AC DC and punk.

I do love eddies playing though great to listen too, I just mentally block out the vocals.

GRIMESPACE wrote:

diablogato22 wrote:I got Fair Warning a few months ago, and it is fucking amazing. The tone is so heavy and thick.

I don't know why I never got this album sooner.

I do like Hagar though.

As I understand it, Eddie was in a pretty 'dark' funk during that time, and the album reflects it. Love the vibe of the whole thing. Unchained and Mean Streets are absolutely killer.

Definitely man. I think one of my favorites off that album is "Sinners Swing"... that tone is thick.
[video]http://youtu.be/4M_lxaHCk-M[/video]

The only one I don't care for is VHI, the songs just don't seem well developed to me. The rest are good tho, even the van hagar ones.

I think Eddie's best work in on "Girl gone bad"

Check it out!

Just finished Hagar's bio. I always thought Sammy had the technical advantage over DLR (by a mile), just always hated his lyrics. In his solo stuff, VH stuff and beyond. I enjoyed 5150 with him and that is about it.

That being said, the book paints a definite picture and I recommend it if you like rockstar bios. He seems to be very level headed and together as opposed to a lot of people that walked that same path. Dealing with the VH brothers seemed very difficult to say the least. That also being said, love the old school VH.

jamminjohn wrote:I think Eddie's best work in on "Girl gone bad"

Check it out!

Totally agree.

Wish i could find "Donut City" on disc somewhere. It's a thing Ed did for "The Wild Life" motion picture soundtrack.

cavitation wrote:Just finished Hagar's bio. I always thought Sammy had the technical advantage over DLR (by a mile), just always hated his lyrics. In his solo stuff, VH stuff and beyond. I enjoyed 5150 with him and that is about it.

That being said, the book paints a definite picture and I recommend it if you like rockstar bios. He seems to be very level headed and together as opposed to a lot of people that walked that same path. Dealing with the VH brothers seemed very difficult to say the least. That also being said, love the old school VH.

I read this right after it came out, and I enjoyed the hell out of it. I am actually listening to Van Hagar right now lol. I enjoyed the hell out of both incarnations of the band, but I think I kinda prefer Hagar over Roth, but that is just me. They were both awesome IMO

My opinion: Van Hagar = better vox, DLR era = better songs & better sounds

Two different bands to my ears.

The DLR stuff has a different feel/polish to it than the Hagar/Cherone stuff.

My ex loved VH, so by default I had to loathe it. I do/did too... could/can not stand DLR's "voice" and his preening for all the men? Can you be an more open about how open your back door is for anything that someone wants to be shoved into it? And folks still insist DLR is straight.

The Hagar/Cherone stuff had a greater level of polish to them, but sorta ended up with a VH1 adult contemporary feel to the releases, but both Sammy & Gary can at least sing.

Derek

So who's ready to throw down thousands of dollars to mimick Ed's early toan?


Those die hard EVH Phan Bois are CRAZY. All that money & time..just to sound like Ed.

I dont get it.

100 watt wrote:So who's ready to throw down thousands of dollars to mimick Ed's early toan?


Those die hard EVH Phan Bois are CRAZY. All that money & time..just to sound like Ed.

I dont get it.

I absolutely love EVH's tone, but I love it in the same sense that I love Larry Carlton's tone: While I wouldn't mind getting close, I would never dedicate my playing life to perfectly emulating that tone. Some of the guys who have to get Marshalls that are the same exact year as his, then do the Arredondo mods, then get a 4x12 and scrape the tolex off of it, etc. are getting a little too deep. Spend more time trying to play like him, that will get you closer than trying to find every little thing he did.

lol. I was playing EVH stuff last night, but with a Hendrix sound mmwwaahahahahahahaha

1984 is my favorite.

ovid9 wrote:I cannot stand DLR. When he's singing, its fine. But then he squeals, and moans, and pretty much sounds like a bitch. Fuck that.

I'm a DLR heretic, straight up. I got sick of the squeals quickly. Live he always forgot 1/3 of the words and screwed up a lot of the rest. Live he always hijacked the show to dick around on acoustic and force the crowd to cheer for him again and again. The Dave Show was always a dead spot in their set, and I hated that portion all three times I saw them. The newest tour seems to have cured all those gripes, at least at the beginning of the tour.

ovid9 wrote:I don't like Haggar's voice.

I am a Sammy Fan back from when he was playing "Red" and "Bad Motor Scooter". I was thrilled when they did "One Way To Rock" with VH. But Sammy with VH always, always was straining for that highest note he can barely reach, and though I like him, his vocal performances were not pleasant to listen to 'screech screech straaaaaaiinn'.

ovid9 wrote:Not a big fan of when synths started being a huge part of their sound.

I farking LOVE synths. But I want it big and fat and nasty, detuned sawtooth waves and squitchy filters that sound like you're torturing a nuclear reactor.
That is NOT where Ed was going with the synths, that shit was Velveeta and I thought he slacked there, big time.

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