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Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:44 am
by Zozobra
Meh, started watching the video and skipped into it 7 or 8 times and every time I got one of these dickholes talking about the fucking amp rather than playing it. Granted from the above it doesn't seem like I missed much though.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:59 am
by madrigal77
NaturalBornBoy wrote:3.7 msrp for the Hellwin so probably around 3k street. You have a lot more choices at that price tag.
LOL
LOLLOL
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:50 pm
by Mesa/Kramer
3k plus "HellWin" logo on the front will equal very low sales.
Who would buy that over an Ectacy or an SLO?
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:57 pm
by soundgardener75
Mesa/Kramer wrote:3k plus "HellWin" logo on the front will equal very low sales.
Who would buy that over an Ectacy or an SLO?

I would own an SLO when I have that much money more than anything.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:07 pm
by shane159
I thought it was very dark sounding, but the mid gain tones were decent. There is no way that amp is going to sell for that much coin though, and they are fucking ugly.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:11 pm
by 100 watt
Are kiddy clowns who dig that band gonna have that kinda dough to throw around on a map ?
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:16 pm
by NinjaRaf
They look horrible, I dont think they sound good, they dont seem to be designed very well for the purposes they say, and if I was gonna spend more than 1500 on an amp, Id go big and get a friggin natas or something. This seems like a really stupid move on schecters part.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:28 pm
by soundgardener75
Would love to hear another demo, I don't think it did the Hellraiser justice, the Hellwin does sound promising though.
And I like that PT guitar he was rockin'.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:41 pm
by sleewell
You could get three ceriatones for the price of this amp
/thread
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:48 pm
by soundgardener75
sleewell wrote:You could get three ceriatones for the price of this amp
/thread
I could get all of Lee Jackson's 50 watt head designs for that price bro on cl alone.

Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:50 pm
by Noizemaker
$3700 and $2600 HOLE E FUCK!!!!!!
I actually thought the amps sound good and I would totally consider owning one at a lower cost, but thats outrageous! :facepalm:
This is definately not going to go well for schecter, a COMPLETE marketing failure, its too bad the amps actually sound good.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:31 pm
by phrophus
soundgardener75 wrote:sleewell wrote:You could get three ceriatones for the price of this amp
/thread
I could get all of Lee Jackson's 50 watt head designs for that price bro on cl alone.

I could buy like 10,800 boudin balls with that money.

Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:23 pm
by Viesczy
I've not heard the amp, no speakers @ work so I'll check it @ home, but $3k?
Is it hand built by Elvis Fucking Presley?
Besides, why do they have an old soul singer designing amps? Pappa Got a Brand New Bag don't = amp genius!

j/k
But $3k?
Derek
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:58 pm
by NeloAngelo
Viesczy wrote:Besides, why do they have an old soul singer designing amps? Pappa Got a Brand New Bag don't = amp genius!

j/k
But $3k?
Derek
uhh, i think this james brown is the guy who designed the 5150.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:51 pm
by gt_jumper
shit job of the mic up there......
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 pm
by gt_jumper
Noizemaker wrote:$3700 and $2600 HOLE E FUCK!!!!!!
I actually thought the amps sound good and I would totally consider owning one at a lower cost, but thats outrageous! :facepalm:
This is definately not going to go well for schecter, a COMPLETE marketing failure, its too bad the amps actually sound good.
HAHAHAHAHA, we pay that over here for amps, whats your problem bro?

Re:
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:00 pm
by Noizemaker
gt_jumper wrote:Noizemaker wrote:$3700 and $2600 HOLE E FUCK!!!!!!
I actually thought the amps sound good and I would totally consider owning one at a lower cost, but thats outrageous! :facepalm:
This is definately not going to go well for schecter, a COMPLETE marketing failure, its too bad the amps actually sound good.
HAHAHAHAHA, we pay that over here for amps, whats your problem bro?

sucks for you bro...
My problem is they made/marketed these amps for HCAFers/Sevenstringers, but priced it for TGPers.
You can also buy way better amps than those for that price no matter where you are btw....
Re: Re:
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:07 pm
by gt_jumper
Noizemaker wrote:gt_jumper wrote:Noizemaker wrote:$3700 and $2600 HOLE E FUCK!!!!!!
I actually thought the amps sound good and I would totally consider owning one at a lower cost, but thats outrageous! :facepalm:
This is definately not going to go well for schecter, a COMPLETE marketing failure, its too bad the amps actually sound good.
HAHAHAHAHA, we pay that over here for amps, whats your problem bro?

sucks for you bro...
My problem is they made/marketed these amps for HCAFers/Sevenstringers, but priced it for TGPers.
You can also buy way better amps than those for that price no matter where you are btw....
Australia

Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:17 pm
by Dave Lister

Do not want.
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm
by ovid9
nakedzen wrote:The heck. "Now we set it to the 7-string mode that adds bass and sag to the tone". Pretty much the exact opposite you would want with sevens.
NaturalBornBoy wrote:nakedzen wrote:The heck. "Now we set it to the 7-string mode that adds bass and sag to the tone". Pretty much the exact opposite you would want with sevens.
I don't play 7-strings much less 8-strings but I've always been under the impression that the low-end has to be tight and focused to facilitate all that extra low end that these guitars bring, no???
Ok, so I wasn't the only one confused by that? Usually the 7 & 8 stringers not playing Korn seem to want really really tight middy stuff from what I've heard? I mean, you're going to get a TON of low end from a 7 or 8 string anyway, you don't really need/want more usually. And when I think of sag I think doom/stoner/etc. not really 7 or 8 string music all too often. IDK
The price on the Hellraiser didn't strike me as too bad for an amp with those features. $2600 list, so what $2100 street for a MIA amp? Doesn't strike me as outrageous like the price for the Hellwin does.
Personally, I have pretty much 0 use for one, though it'd be fun to play a 6er tuned to B or something through the 8 string mode.

Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:55 pm
by Viesczy
NeloAngelo wrote:Viesczy wrote:Besides, why do they have an old soul singer designing amps? Pappa Got a Brand New Bag don't = amp genius!

j/k
But $3k?
Derek
uhh, i think this james brown is the guy who designed the 5150.
Uh-huh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Ore48uq-4BTW you did see the j/k &

So after listening to the demo, I'd put a realistic price for those sub $1,200. How can they expect to get that $ for them when the 3120 sounds better at a 1/3 the cost? The entire Recto/Mrak line slays that from what I could tell.
I like the idea of the cab though... that sub in there... 7s and 8s would sound great!
Derek
Re: Re:
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:14 am
by Mesa/Kramer
Fo real????????????
These go for $600 used all day everyday and just over $1,000 new.
The cabs for for $200-$250 used.......................
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:16 am
by NaturalBornBoy
Yeah it's a well known fact that you get severely ass raped each time you step into an Australian music store to buy anything.
Re: Re:
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:45 am
by Vic

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you can get them for a lot cheaper than that but yeah australia=raped
Re: Schecter Hellwin NAMM demo
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:24 am
by Wookieslayer
there's going to be versions made over seas... so we'll see what the pricing on those will be.
They better put up a better demo soon lol. First impressions can mean a lot for some.