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Telephant wrote:

madrigal77 wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:My issue with the user error argument is when you see bands like Metallica. Those guys has the top audio guys in the world working for them. And it still doesn't sound as good as they did with amps.

But I have seen bands get good/ decent results.

I'll make a clip of the Amplifire tones I've dialed in. I don't hate them, but convenience/necessity would be the only reasons I'd use them over my amps.

I think with Metallica, it's their tone choice, rather than the modellers. They would sound shitty with real amps too. Their ears are toast. Their tones on the last few albums have been horrible too, and they are using the same amps that they've used forever.

I actually thought their guitar tone on the last single they put out sounded awesome and I don’t even really like Metallica. Doubt they used modeler in the studio though.

GuitarBilly wrote:

Telephant wrote:

madrigal77 wrote:

GuitarBilly wrote:My issue with the user error argument is when you see bands like Metallica. Those guys has the top audio guys in the world working for them. And it still doesn't sound as good as they did with amps.

But I have seen bands get good/ decent results.

I'll make a clip of the Amplifire tones I've dialed in. I don't hate them, but convenience/necessity would be the only reasons I'd use them over my amps.

I think with Metallica, it's their tone choice, rather than the modellers. They would sound shitty with real amps too. Their ears are toast. Their tones on the last few albums have been horrible too, and they are using the same amps that they've used forever.

I actually thought their guitar tone on the last single they put out sounded awesome and I don’t even really like Metallica. Doubt they used modeler in the studio though.

Yeah their studio tone is all amps. Kirk recently said they used a Jose modded Marshall a lot on the last album, along with their old MkIIC+ .

GuitarBilly wrote:I took the modeler to practice today to try to go DI. What a miserable time that was. Through the studio PA, the presets I programmed didn't sound anything like they did at home with my studio monitors. It sounded thin and shrill and just awful. So frustrating.


Thankfully the studio had a Marshall Valvestate so I plugged straight into that and dialed a workable tone within seconds and I was able to finish practice.

It's probably user error, I should have tweaked it more etc... but I give up.

Holy-diver wrote:Just saw Alice In Chains then Incubus, Jerry had the Friedman 4x12s on stage and Mike busted out 2 blonde tremoverb 2x12 combos. Both men had phenomenal tone, not a modeler in sight