GuitarBilly wrote:My issue with the user error argument is when you see bands like Metallica. Those guys has the top audio guys in the world working for them. And it still doesn't sound as good as they did with amps.
But I have seen bands get good/ decent results.
I'll make a clip of the Amplifire tones I've dialed in. I don't hate them, but convenience/necessity would be the only reasons I'd use them over my amps.
I think with Metallica, it's their tone choice, rather than the modellers. They would sound shitty with real amps too. Their ears are toast. Their tones on the last few albums have been horrible too, and they are using the same amps that they've used forever.
I actually thought their guitar tone on the last single they put out sounded awesome and I don’t even really like Metallica. Doubt they used modeler in the studio though.
Yeah their studio tone is all amps. Kirk recently said they used a Jose modded Marshall a lot on the last album, along with their old MkIIC+ .
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GuitarBilly wrote:My issue with the user error argument is when you see bands like Metallica. Those guys has the top audio guys in the world working for them. And it still doesn't sound as good as they did with amps.
But I have seen bands get good/ decent results.
I'll make a clip of the Amplifire tones I've dialed in. I don't hate them, but convenience/necessity would be the only reasons I'd use them over my amps.
I think with Metallica, it's their tone choice, rather than the modellers. They would sound shitty with real amps too. Their ears are toast. Their tones on the last few albums have been horrible too, and they are using the same amps that they've used forever.
I actually thought their guitar tone on the last single they put out sounded awesome and I don’t even really like Metallica. Doubt they used modeler in the studio though.
Yeah their studio tone is all amps. Kirk recently said they used a Jose modded Marshall a lot on the last album, along with their old MkIIC+ .
GuitarBilly wrote:I took the modeler to practice today to try to go DI. What a miserable time that was. Through the studio PA, the presets I programmed didn't sound anything like they did at home with my studio monitors. It sounded thin and shrill and just awful. So frustrating.
Thankfully the studio had a Marshall Valvestate so I plugged straight into that and dialed a workable tone within seconds and I was able to finish practice.
It's probably user error, I should have tweaked it more etc... but I give up.
I don’t blame you brother. We’re oldschool just embrace the boomer vibes.
Just saw Alice In Chains then Incubus, Jerry had the Friedman 4x12s on stage and Mike busted out 2 blonde tremoverb 2x12 combos. Both men had phenomenal tone, not a modeler in sight
Holy-diver wrote:Just saw Alice In Chains then Incubus, Jerry had the Friedman 4x12s on stage and Mike busted out 2 blonde tremoverb 2x12 combos. Both men had phenomenal tone, not a modeler in sight
William Duvall also uses Metropoulos amps for the songs he plays guitars on too. That amp is no joke either.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world. + is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
I remember seeing Suicidal Tendencies a hair over a month ago and they were running modelers into mic'd guitar cabs that were "supposedly" pushed by their amp head counterparts. Sounded good to my ears.
This was told to me from a security guard that's a guitar nerd.
