NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional Mhog
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NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional Mhog
Purchased in May and finally got it back from the shop after a massive makeover.
2012 Les Paul Traditional Mahogany Satin - Ebony
These are supposed to all have VERY slim 60's profile necks (.8" at the 1st fret and .875" at the 12th), but I scored one that went out with a '59 profile neck. I called Gibson customer service and verified its authenticity and was told that I "got very lucky to have one with those neck measurements."
.86" at 1st fret
.99" at 12th fret
Changes as follows:
1. Put on my preferred drop in locking tuners (Gotoh SD90-MG-T thumbwheel) with conversion bushings
2. Swapped out the stock chrome bridge and tailpiece for a locking Pinnacle nickle plated aluminum set (including the tailpiece studs)
3. Put on Dunlop nickel straplok buttons
4. Put on an amber switch tip
5. Put on vintage repro gold top hat knobs (embossed letters, not painted) with knob pointers (aka thumb bleeders)
6. Seller no longer had the stock pickups (57 classic plus bridge, 57 classic neck) or the pickguard and bracket, so I picked up both. The set of black Fishman Fluence pups that the seller "upgraded” the guitar with were sold to the shop that installed my new (stock) pickups
7. Refinished the top in 57 Chevy tropical turquoise (the real stuff that is used to restore actual 57 Chevy's)
8. Nitro gloss the top after painting completed
9. Spot paint back, sides, & neck as needed, followed by full Nitro gloss (so no more Satin).
The idea here was to have a really sharp looking blackback LP with a tropical turquoise top and the entire guitar looking like a modern day 50's Standard...with upgrades!
The only area that falls short of looking like it came new from Gibson like this is the fact that the binding doesn't show the full thickness when looking at the guitar directly from the front...it's a middle ground between an Epiphone and a Gibson in that regard. Not as thin as most Epi's, but not as thick as Gibson's. It can be tough to show the full binding on a refinish. I don't fault the shop who did this most excellent work.
PICS (I did what I could with my iPhone...MUCH better in person):
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2012 Les Paul Traditional Mahogany Satin - Ebony
These are supposed to all have VERY slim 60's profile necks (.8" at the 1st fret and .875" at the 12th), but I scored one that went out with a '59 profile neck. I called Gibson customer service and verified its authenticity and was told that I "got very lucky to have one with those neck measurements."
.86" at 1st fret
.99" at 12th fret
Changes as follows:
1. Put on my preferred drop in locking tuners (Gotoh SD90-MG-T thumbwheel) with conversion bushings
2. Swapped out the stock chrome bridge and tailpiece for a locking Pinnacle nickle plated aluminum set (including the tailpiece studs)
3. Put on Dunlop nickel straplok buttons
4. Put on an amber switch tip
5. Put on vintage repro gold top hat knobs (embossed letters, not painted) with knob pointers (aka thumb bleeders)
6. Seller no longer had the stock pickups (57 classic plus bridge, 57 classic neck) or the pickguard and bracket, so I picked up both. The set of black Fishman Fluence pups that the seller "upgraded” the guitar with were sold to the shop that installed my new (stock) pickups
7. Refinished the top in 57 Chevy tropical turquoise (the real stuff that is used to restore actual 57 Chevy's)
8. Nitro gloss the top after painting completed
9. Spot paint back, sides, & neck as needed, followed by full Nitro gloss (so no more Satin).
The idea here was to have a really sharp looking blackback LP with a tropical turquoise top and the entire guitar looking like a modern day 50's Standard...with upgrades!
The only area that falls short of looking like it came new from Gibson like this is the fact that the binding doesn't show the full thickness when looking at the guitar directly from the front...it's a middle ground between an Epiphone and a Gibson in that regard. Not as thin as most Epi's, but not as thick as Gibson's. It can be tough to show the full binding on a refinish. I don't fault the shop who did this most excellent work.
PICS (I did what I could with my iPhone...MUCH better in person):
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Last edited by cliffenstein on Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
GUITARS
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
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2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
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CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
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1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
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https://facebook.com/thestivs
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
That is gorgeous. I love the color.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Beautiful finish! Love it! Congrats!
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Yep. That's the stuff. Nice job!
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Looks amazing man!!!! The idea of a black back with a tropical blue top sounded strange to me on paper, but looking at the pictures, it totally works!!! Really beautiful and unique guitar.
What shop did you go to?? They did an outstanding job!!
What shop did you go to?? They did an outstanding job!!
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Outstanding! You've scored some killer gear over the past several months.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
GuitarBilly wrote:What shop did you go to?? They did an outstanding job!!
The Guitar Man in Salisbury, Md. specifically, Danny Gross…he takes care of all my guitar work. I highly recommend him if you’re ever down here on the Eastern Shore.
GUITARS
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
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Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
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1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Absolutely stunning. Totally has a cool 50s vibe with the top finish and black back. They did excellent work.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
VTM wrote:Outstanding! You've scored some killer gear over the past several months.
I have indeed...and I'm gonna be done now for quite a while! haha
GUITARS
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction
Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
wow... that colour looks great and I love black back Les Pauls
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
That is an absolutely fantastic finish. Great looking fiddle, man.
Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
damn that looks beautiful
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
WOW! Love that color, you did great!
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Gonna have to say I love it! Unexpected surprise.
Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Gonna have to say I love it! Unexpected surprise.
Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Gonna have to say I love it! Unexpected surprise.
Cameron Amps wrote:He's right....I think VTMs sound great....go get one. No nos tubes needed.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Looks great! Nice axe.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
That is killer. Really nice job and I am sure it plays and sounds awesome. Love the color choice.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Some people would cry blasphemy, and that you should have left it stock. I am not one of those people. That is the best thing to do for the guitar. And it looks fabulous.
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Historic pickup rings...yay or nay?
GUITARS
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
I’m gonna say nay. Like, I have them on my R7 and they’re fine, they look good, but overall I prefer modern rings. Better balance of pickup to ring ratio.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
Metropoulos Slant 2x12 w/ Creamback H75s
Marshall 1960A w/ Greenbacks
https://www.reverbnation.com/zerobelowphoenix
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Re: NGRD (New Guitar Refinishing Day) - 2012 LP Traditional
Thank you, sir!
GUITARS
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction
1988 Fender MIJ ST54 Hardtail Stratocaster w/SD JB Jr
2011 Recording King RD-126
2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional Mahogany
2015 Fender Road Worn '50s Stratocaster
2018 Gibson Limited Edition Les Paul Junior
2019 Gibson Original Collection Les Paul Special
AMPS
1979 Marshall JMP 2204
1997 Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100
2021 Epic Amplification AR50
2022 Jet City Custom JCA800
2022 Mojotone British 800 2204
CABS
Marshall JCM 800 1960A
Marshall 1936 Lead (all birch build)
Marshall 1936 Vintage (all birch build)
SPEAKERS
Celestion G12T75 (original white label - vented)
Celestion Heritage G12-65
Celestion UK built Vintage 30 (T4416B)
BANDS
https://facebook.com/huntingtonsusa
https://facebook.com/thestivs
https://facebook.com/jonniwalkerandthesatisfaction