ajaxlepinski wrote:Computers and video games, back in the 90's, were still in their infancy... there was nothing else to do but, go see bands play!!!
This. Too many entertainment choices now.
At least in the covers market, it started with raising the drinking age, that took out a good chunk of audience immediately. More strict DUI laws clamped down on the adults, and the internet and TV slowly took some of the crowds away. The "no smoking in bars" thing took even more away, add in the fact that popular music ISN'T centered around 4 or 5 musicians playing instruments anymore, and you arrive at where we are.
There were tons of packed bars in the 80's and 90's, and a band in every one of them, in the Philly area. That has been slowly dwindling, for decades now.
sadly, this is the truth of it. I could measure the drop off when dash cams in cop cars became common. The drinkers either got popped for DUI, or were in fear of it and greatly reduced the frequency that they went out.
At least around here there will always be a huge tourist industry, so there will always be demand for good cover bands, even if it is just becoming background noise.
fretless wrote:in the 80's /90's we would rake in upwards of $1k for a cover gig with the norm at around 3 to 500 every Friday and sat for years. Does that happen anymore ? These days my duo just thinks about writing tunes
it's finally getting back up to that rate around here, gigs and pay slowed down a lot in the early 2000's. Now as a 4 piece we're getting anywhere from $800 to $1200 a show depending on the venues popularity. But we've been in it for a while, so having some cred does bring a bit more pay these days.
Thats good news !
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fretless wrote:lets risk everyones lives by releasing the drunks onto the roads to line our pockets Yay . Death Race 2019
That's exactly what Austin did.
Uber/Lyft have been quantifiably proven to reduce DUIs.
It IS about the money/revenue for local municipalities. They can't print money, so they have to raise it through parking tickets, permits, taxes, and by creating criminals.
fretless wrote:lets risk everyones lives by releasing the drunks onto the roads to line our pockets Yay . Death Race 2019
That's exactly what Austin did.
Uber/Lyft have been quantifiably proven to reduce DUIs.
It IS about the money/revenue for local municipalities. They can't print money, so they have to raise it through parking tickets, permits, taxes, and by creating criminals.
"Safety" is the mask on top of it.
yeah I don't think I've ever been in an Uber while sober
I can't even begin to tell you what driving late at night in Las Vegas is like though... on the 3 years I've lived there I've seen more drunk driving and accidents than in 15 years in LA.. despite the fact the LA population is 10x bigger.
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The music scene was obviously better, those are some cool pics
Municipalities are always starving for $$, especially when you entice people to come here for "freebies", if you TRULY saw the $$ wasted you would vomit
Glad to see you getting some live music lately
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fretless wrote:in the 80's /90's we would rake in upwards of $1k for a cover gig with the norm at around 3 to 500 every Friday and sat for years. Does that happen anymore ? These days my duo just thinks about writing tunes
In the DMV, the higher tier bands have some good options to play. My main band is a 6 piece, and we bring in 2-2,500. We're on the higher end of the spectrum, but I know friend's bands that are bringing in 1,400 at a lot of places with 4-5 people in them.
GoldstarGuitar wrote:I meant to add tot the OP that I'd love to see anyone else's pics/clips/memories from their favorite times. Old gig pics are endlessly entertaining to me
A couple of mine from 1992
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GoldstarGuitar wrote:I meant to add tot the OP that I'd love to see anyone else's pics/clips/memories from their favorite times. Old gig pics are endlessly entertaining to me
Dick Butter Nuts wrote:I think these are from 1993.
Rotten Grandma!! killer! reminds me of this one (much more recent though)
Your's is much cooler though. Young people know how to headbang. Old people just holler and spill their beer a lot while keeping their distance.
atrox wrote:I wish i had photo's of my 80's and 90's shows. Crazy shit
Man, me too. The 80's shit was a different level of whacked. Not to mention I weighed a whopping 145 lbs, and my hair was bigger than my whole body. would look pretty damn funny today.
GoldstarGuitar wrote:Rotten Grandma!! killer! reminds me of this one (much more recent though)
Old people just holler and spill their beer a lot
Do you remember what song you were playing here? Based on the inebriation level of the old folks it looks like the pic was taken towards the end of the evening.
Cameron Amps wrote:He's right....I think VTMs sound great....go get one. No nos tubes needed.
GoldstarGuitar wrote:Rotten Grandma!! killer! reminds me of this one (much more recent though)
Old people just holler and spill their beer a lot
Do you remember what song you were playing here? Based on the inebriation level of the old folks it looks like the pic was taken towards the end of the evening.
I think it was it ain't like that - AIC. And yeah, definitely end of the night.