Finally got this amp fixed.
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Finally got this amp fixed.
You guys may remember I bought this Mojotone Superbass/2203 conversion a few months ago. When I got it it sounded like total ass. I was going to return it but the seller gave me a good discount so I decided to roll the dice.
This week I finally had some time to get it worked on and I took it to Pete Cage of Cage Audio who is known to be a vintage amp guru in the area. He fixed it up completely and also added a few of his personal tweaks, like a lower value bright cap, a hum balance control and he also kept some element of the non master volume preamp. He explained the technical terms for me but I promptly forgot the details. Something about having the cathodes split instead of combined. (I am sure I am butchering the explanation, so don't quote me on it). .
But anyway, the amp sounds AMAZING now. Tons of lean power, no harshness anywhere and just a ballsy, full Marshall tone. It has a bit less gain than the 2203s I've had in the past but definitely more than enough for me.
This is quite possibly the be-all/end-all amp for me as far as Marshall amps go. Just perfect. I am going to make some clips of it when I am alone in the house because I want to turn it up where it really opens up. But goddamn this is incredible.
This week I finally had some time to get it worked on and I took it to Pete Cage of Cage Audio who is known to be a vintage amp guru in the area. He fixed it up completely and also added a few of his personal tweaks, like a lower value bright cap, a hum balance control and he also kept some element of the non master volume preamp. He explained the technical terms for me but I promptly forgot the details. Something about having the cathodes split instead of combined. (I am sure I am butchering the explanation, so don't quote me on it). .
But anyway, the amp sounds AMAZING now. Tons of lean power, no harshness anywhere and just a ballsy, full Marshall tone. It has a bit less gain than the 2203s I've had in the past but definitely more than enough for me.
This is quite possibly the be-all/end-all amp for me as far as Marshall amps go. Just perfect. I am going to make some clips of it when I am alone in the house because I want to turn it up where it really opens up. But goddamn this is incredible.
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
Nice! Glad it worked out well in the end. I'm looking fwd to hearing some clips.
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Awesome! Congrats! Can't wait to hear the clips!
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right on! Right On!! RIGHT ON!!!
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
Freakin amazing! Can’t wait to hear some clips.
I wonder if he’s got the two gain stages in parallel to simulate a jumpered plexi vs cascaded in series?
I wonder if he’s got the two gain stages in parallel to simulate a jumpered plexi vs cascaded in series?
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GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
greatmutah wrote:Freakin amazing! Can’t wait to hear some clips.
I wonder if he’s got the two gain stages in parallel to simulate a jumpered plexi vs cascaded in series?
Hmm yeah that's probably it.
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
I love Marshalls.
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Man, it must be nice to have a competent amp tech near you. That's awesome that you're happy with the results.
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
Got dang, boy! It doesn't even have to sound good, I'm a sucker for THAT look when it comes to Marshalls. I don't know why exactly.
But what a bonus it is, to have the thought that its the "Ultimate Marshall" for you.
But what a bonus it is, to have the thought that its the "Ultimate Marshall" for you.
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GuitarBilly wrote:greatmutah wrote:Freakin amazing! Can’t wait to hear some clips.
I wonder if he’s got the two gain stages in parallel to simulate a jumpered plexi vs cascaded in series?
Hmm yeah that's probably it.
Rereading what you posted, if the cathodes are split on V1 that’s Super Lead spec. If it’s a shared cathode it’s a little lower gain and Super Bass spec. But those aren’t the only contributing factors to lower gain than a 2203. Modifying the bright cap value and whatever his other personal tweaks are would also contribute to that sound. All siad? You got a killer Marshall and took it to a great tech. I wouldn’t sweat the details too much. Just enjoy it for all its worth.
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
Is this the one that was super low volume when you got it?
Or am I imagining shit
Or am I imagining shit
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
greatmutah wrote:You got a killer Marshall and took it to a great tech. I wouldn’t sweat the details too much. Just enjoy it for all its worth.
For sure the part that matters, but you know everyone's gonna ask what dem tweaks is.
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
Hell yeah
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Congrats, that is awesome... Now where are those clips
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Looks killer! Looking forward to hearing how it sounds.
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Quick Clip:
Not my finest moment playing wise but anyway.... I couldn't turn it up much either, I will make a louder later, this is a bit below band practice volume.
Not my finest moment playing wise but anyway.... I couldn't turn it up much either, I will make a louder later, this is a bit below band practice volume.
Guitars:
'78 Les Paul Pro / '89 SG Special/ '04 Gibson Les Paul Classic 3 pickup / Jackson Star/ Endres Tele / Fernandes Rhoads/ ''74 Hohner MIJ strat/ 2 Partscasters
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Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol
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Depends on when you ask. I got tired of constantly updating this section lol
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
Damn that sounds incredible!
That is as perfect as tone can get
That is as perfect as tone can get
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Bill, that amp is fucking perfect. DO NOT SELL IT EVER!!!
"I understand the science behind it. But you know what I trust more than science? Tony Iommi."
GuitarBilly wrote:Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world.
+ is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
Metropoulos Metro-Plex
Egnater Seminar Boutikit 50 Watt Head
Orange Rockerverb 50 MK III
Fender '76 Vibrolux Reverb
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Sounds fucking great! Epic tones definitely leaning more to the Pleas side!
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80's Washburn Scavenger Bass
Boss GT1000
Henning Bottle Rocket Preamp
Carvin MTS3212 Combo
Hamer XT DC with Sheptone Red headed step childs
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Yeah this is the end of the line for me as far as Marshall amps go. This is the tone I've been chasing forever.
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Sounds so good!!
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Ya that sounds real fucking good! So it’s got an fx loop or how are you running your delay?
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Telephant wrote:Ya that sounds real fucking good! So it’s got an fx loop or how are you running your delay?
Yeah the Mojotone effects loop was installed during the repair. Great loop btw, really transparent.
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Sounds and looks killer!
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Re: Finally got this amp fixed.
GuitarBilly wrote:Quick Clip:
Not my finest moment playing wise but anyway.... I couldn't turn it up much either, I will make a louder later, this is a bit below band practice volume.
Yeah this fucks
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