Watched some clips from the Chilis with Frusciante from Stern the other day. Man; what a bunch of KILLER players. They made the right call getting him back. Even if I haven't liked a song I've heard from them post BSSM Smith is a beast on the drums that I haven't always gave enough props to. But he was killing it.
It really just came down to Kiedis Biggest problem I have had for the longest time with them is they traded away anything resembling funkiness or a connection to their original mojo and replaced with new age 60s folkwtfever worship. And Kiedis pales trying to make every song some sort of deep mix of Under the Bridge and Californiawtfeveritistime1037. I have never requested someone might be better with a bit of autotune; but maybe juuuuuuuuuuust a touch of that would help? I would actually prefer they make a return to the funk and punk meets Hendrix cocktail that made them awesome in the first place.
I realize this is an old man rant but watching them told me they still have it in them; they are just so timid and respectful of their feeling bubbles and whatever other "we paid $40 million to an army of therapists to get to where we can say we appreciate each other" crap. Man up FFS and re-fulfill your destinies!
I gave up after BSSM. Everything up to that was brilliant. But once Kedis began his out of key crooner thing, I checked out. His voice has only gotten worse since then. That said, the Uplift Mofo has been my jam since the 8th grade. In 1987, my friends made fun of me. By 1990, they realized I was ahead of the curve, lol.
TurboPablo wrote:I gave up after BSSM. Everything up to that was brilliant. But once Kedis began his out of key crooner thing, I checked out. His voice has only gotten worse since then. That said, the Uplift Mofo has been my jam since the 8th grade. In 1987, my friends made fun of me. By 1990, they realized I was ahead of the curve, lol.
Watching them play last night was just a joy. From a musicianship standpoint; they were flawless. Their musical chemistry is just out of this world. I just wish they could get back to being funky. I don't know if someone told them it was out of favor or what the deal was. They need to refind their inner George Clinton again. For serious. I am in total agreement with you on being past their prime but it just seems like such a shame when you see the skill on display.
Frusciante has always been the best fit of any guitarist they've had by a pretty wide margin. Him and flea play off each other in a way that you really don't hear very often in pop rock bands like them. They've got this way of writing complimentary riffs that just make the two instruments work as one while doing totally opposite things (two examples of the top of my head are Californication and Snow).
Maybe its because I'm younger than you guys and the first album I heard was BSSM but I really can't get into the older funkier (pre BSSM) stuff much anymore despite being really into in the mid 90s. Something about it just feels dated as hell at this point, maybe its the production since I don't feel quite the same way as the funky stuff on BSSM.
Regardless theres no denying the music ability in the band regardless of tastes even though Anthony just ruins many songs through one means or anything.
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K-Bizzle wrote:Frusciante has always been the best fit of any guitarist they've had by a pretty wide margin. Him and flea play off each other that you really don't hear very often in pop rock bands like them. They've got this way of writing complimentary riffs that just make the two instruments work as one while doing totally opposite things (two examples of the top of my head are Californication and Snow).
Maybe its because I'm younger than you guys and the first album I heard was BSSM but I really can't get into the older funkier (pre BSSM) stuff much anymore despite being really into in the mid 90s. Something about it just feels dated as hell at this point, maybe its the production since I don't feel quite the same way as the funky stuff on BSSM.
Regardless theres no denying the music ability in the band regardless of tastes even Anthony ruins many songs through one means or anything.
That could very well be. The early stuff, whether Uplift or Mother's Milk definitely sounds like the time it was released in. For better or worse. I LOVE both albums but can get why somebody who wasn't around would scratch their heads a bit My lingering question for them really since the first time John came back is when are they going to try rocking again? As old man rant as that may sound there is no energy to anything. Despite having a MONSTROUS instrumental section at their disposal.
Hilel Slovak was the best fit. Flea and Anthony have said as much. He just didn't live long enough. Frusciante is a rabid fan of him and from the start, modelled his own playing after Hilel. That was one of the biggest reasons he got the gig in the first place(along with already knowing all of their songs). Mother's Milk was good, but a bit clunky. BSSM was where John hit his strixe. It was a more natural progression from the Uplift Mofo.
Slovak was awesome. But I don't know he long he would have lasted or what they would have evolved to post Uplift. Obviously all speculation at this point. Listening to Mother's Milk remaster now and it holds up to me. Taste the Pain, Knock Me Down, Nobody Weird Like Me....good stuff. I have always dug that lateeeee 80s hard rock meets funk thing that only a handful of bands dipped into. It's a bit niche and I guess I get why a band might feel inclined to move on from that direction. But the Chilis were soooooooo good at it.
JiveTurkey wrote:Slovak was awesome. But I don't know he long he would have lasted or what they would have evolved to post Uplift. Obviously all speculation at this point. Listening to Mother's Milk remaster now and it holds up to me. Taste the Pain, Knock Me Down, Nobody Weird Like Me....good stuff. I have always dug that lateeeee 80s hard rock meets funk thing that only a handful of bands dipped into. It's a bit niche and I guess I get why a band might feel inclined to move on from that direction. But the Chilis were soooooooo good at it.
From the mid 1980s' through mid 1990s', Fishbone owned all. Best live show I have ever seen. They punished the crowd. Just, beyond insane. As for Hilel, the dude was a true disciple of Jimi. He could play it without copping. He was the real deal. Although I think, had he lived, it would have been pretty similar to where they went anyway. That's how influential he was over Frusciante.
JiveTurkey wrote:Slovak was awesome. But I don't know he long he would have lasted or what they would have evolved to post Uplift. Obviously all speculation at this point. Listening to Mother's Milk remaster now and it holds up to me. Taste the Pain, Knock Me Down, Nobody Weird Like Me....good stuff. I have always dug that lateeeee 80s hard rock meets funk thing that only a handful of bands dipped into. It's a bit niche and I guess I get why a band might feel inclined to move on from that direction. But the Chilis were soooooooo good at it.
From the mid 1980s' through mid 1990s', Fishbone owned all. Best live show I have ever seen. They punished the crowd. Just, beyond insane. As for Hilel, the dude was a true disciple of Jimi. He could play it without copping. He was the real deal. Although I think, had he lived, it would have been pretty similar to where they went anyway. That's how influential he was over Frusciante.
I tried getting into Fishbone. But beyond Sunless Saturday; I needed more of the rock influence than the funk. I should give them another go. I saw them at one of the Lollapaloozas and it was a good show.
Chilis certainly flip flopped in both directions. As I watched the vids last night; I couldn't help but think of the "feud" Kiedis and Patton had and how Patton would have made a great replacement Mofo has some killer tunes on it as I am looking at the tracklist. Serious nostalgia on this
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All the songs I've heard from the new album have been so slow and boring, but it's good to see him back in the band. His back up vocals go well with Anthony too. I was into Fishbone since the 80's, I remember being at the 1st Warp Tour and Angelo Moore was just walking all around in the crowds watching the other bands and it seemed like I was the only person who knew who he was.
Saw them at a local festival a few years back when Josh was playing with them. They were good not great. Almost went and saw them in Italy, but plans fell thru. Stoked that John is back in the band, got tickets for July, and my expectations are high.
I'm sure I'll end up hearing their new material somewhere. But it won't on purpose. I checked out from RHCP a long time ago.
I think the record they did with Dave Navarro was the last cool record they had. And of course the early stuff is classic.
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The Howard Stern clips were great. He's incredible at interviewing bands and the live sound is always really good. Not too into the new album but maybe it will grow on me.
Thurston wrote:The Howard Stern clips were great. He's incredible at interviewing bands and the live sound is always really good. Not too into the new album but maybe it will grow on me.
I keep trying to get into everything after One Hot Minute, but I keep failing. Maybe it’s because I can’t write fifteen albums’ worth of songs with United States flash cards meant for first-graders, and have no appreciation for it, or maybe it’s because I can’t appreciate the sounds of a singer who is clearly bored with his chosen profession.
I have heard the first new song, and it doesn’t give me high hopes for the album, and I won’t be buying it.
andvari7 wrote:I keep trying to get into everything after One Hot Minute, but I keep failing. Maybe it’s because I can’t write fifteen albums’ worth of songs with United States flash cards meant for first-graders, and have no appreciation for it, or maybe it’s because I can’t appreciate the sounds of a singer who is clearly bored with his chosen profession.
I have heard the first new song, and it doesn’t give me high hopes for the album, and I won’t be buying it.
I need to give One Hot Minute another chance. I liked Warped, hated Aeroplane and kind of just moved on. At least on Warped they still had some balls.
I feel like I need to do an actual dive into checking out RHCP. Obviously I've heard all the hits a million times (and theres a bunch) but I've never sat down and listened to an album
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Smith is a beast on the drums that I haven't always gave enough props to. But he was killing it.
Biggest problem I have had for the longest time with them is they traded away anything resembling funkiness or a connection to their original mojo and replaced with new age 60s folkwtfever worship. And Kiedis pales trying to make every song some sort of deep mix of Under the Bridge and Californiawtfeveritistime1037. I have never requested someone might be better with a bit of autotune; but maybe juuuuuuuuuuust a touch of that would help? I would actually prefer they make a return to the funk and punk meets Hendrix cocktail that made them awesome in the first place.
